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Runtu wrote:I have said precisely the same thing in the past. This seems to be Bushman's approach, as well. But I still struggle with this. Either he could or couldn't see anything in the stone, pre-Book of Mormon. If he couldn't, he had to have known it was fraudulent behavior.


How much treasure did he find again? :)
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Themis wrote:How much treasure did he find again? :)


As I recall, he found a lost pin, a missing horse, and a feather (but not the treasure he said the feather would be on top of).
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Hey Rocky watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat..... Nothing up my sleeve. Presto!
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Rough Stone Rolling is literally over-flowing with instances of cog-dis. This is just one example.
That seems to me to be a misuse of the term cognitive dissonance. Perhaps you could define what you mean by the term.

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How about redefining it as an implicit manifestation of the author's unwillingness to arrive at the logical conclusions of the evidences he forwards?
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Runtu wrote:
Themis wrote:How much treasure did he find again? :)


As I recall, he found a lost pin, a missing horse, and a feather (but not the treasure he said the feather would be on top of).


It's a miracle. I like the pin one, although easily explainable.
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How about redefining it as an implicit manifestation of the author's unwillingness to arrive at the logical conclusions of the evidences he forwards?
Having read Festinger's book, I can't say that he ever mentions anything like that.

Perhaps you should do a little reading. You can start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

"Cognitive dissonance is a discomfort caused by holding conflicting cognitions (e.g., ideas, beliefs, values, emotional reactions) simultaneously."

To put it simply, a book cannot be full of cognitive dissonance since, of course, books don't experience discomfort.

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Benjamin McGuire wrote:"Cognitive dissonance is a discomfort caused by holding conflicting cognitions (e.g., ideas, beliefs, values, emotional reactions) simultaneously."

To put it simply, a book cannot be full of cognitive dissonance since, of course, books don't experience discomfort.

Ben M.


Books do often contain "ideas, beliefs, values, [and] emotional reactions," though. I think that was the point.
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liz3564 wrote:
ldsfaq wrote:So, spare us the "pretend" respect, that you actually respect ANY LDS, or LDS scholar and apologist. You think they ALL are liars, they ALL are stupid, etc., no matter how respectful and scholared they are toward critics and anti-mormons.


BS. I am an active member, and my respect is genuine. I am one of the few here who count Dan Peterson as a close friend; I also have great respect for David Bokovoy.

Knock off the broad brush strokes.


I don't know you very well..... Obviously I was speaking of the anti-mormons here who regularily belittle and degrade LDS Apologists when they are not around, or even when some are. If my words don't apply to you, then why are you addressing them?

A favorite target of the anti's here and everywhere for that matter is Dan Peterson.

The fact that they such as Runtu now "pretends" like they don't say all kinds of bad things about LDS Apologists, just because they are actually being respectful for a change conversing with Ben, just so they can pretend to "look" better than me, and in front of Ben, doesn't make them being truthful.

I'm here every day, I see their words every day...... I know what they do, and they lie claiming otherwise.
Other than mocking Mormons and Mormonism, mocking LDS scholars and scholarship is the anti-mormons here favorite past-time. If you are going to try to tell me otherwise, then you are a liar also, or utterly clueless.
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ldsfaqs wrote:I don't know you very well..... Obviously I was speaking of the anti-mormons here who regularily belittle and degrade LDS Apologists when they are not around, or even when some are. If my words don't apply to you, then why are you addressing them?

A favorite target of the anti's here and everywhere for that matter is Dan Peterson.

The fact that they such as Runtu now "pretends" like they don't say all kinds of bad things about LDS Apologists, just because they are actually being respectful for a change conversing with Ben, just so they can pretend to "look" better than me, and in front of Ben, doesn't make them being truthful.

I'm here every day, I see their words every day...... I know what they do, and they lie claiming otherwise.
Other than mocking Mormons and Mormonism, mocking LDS scholars and scholarship is the anti-mormons here favorite past-time. If you are going to try to tell me otherwise, then you are a liar also, or utterly clueless.


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Great scott! ldsfaqs called people liars.
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