No three degrees of Glory in 1 Cor 15
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I will try to post this again also! Mittens, I looked at that jumbled mess of a site you referred to. What is the issue? Surely you are not trying to say that the Bible is more accurate than the Book of Mormon (other than the false belief that the Book of Mormon is fiction)?! There are at least thirty-one major errors in the Bible as well as many minor ones. Name one specific error in the Book of Mormon!
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gdemetz wrote:I will try to post this again also! Mittens, I looked at that jumbled mess of a site you referred to. What is the issue? Surely you are not trying to say that the Bible is more accurate than the Book of Mormon (other than the false belief that the Book of Mormon is fiction)?! There are at least thirty-one major errors in the Bible as well as many minor ones. Name one specific error in the Book of Mormon!
Seriously?
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Yes, seriously. Of the countless times I have read it, I have only seen a few minor grammatical errors, and an inconsistency of chapter divisions. For example, in 2 Nephi 14 (Isaiah 4), the first verse is the last verse in the JST of Isaiah 3. However, I have found quite a number of errors from reading the entire Bible.
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gdemetz wrote:Yes, seriously. Of the countless times I have read it, I have only seen a few minor grammatical errors, and an inconsistency of chapter divisions. For example, in 2 Nephi 14 (Isaiah 4), the first verse is the last verse in the JST of Isaiah 3. However, I have found quite a number of errors from reading the entire Bible.
I too read them side by side and noticed that in the JST of the Bible Joseph has gotten carried away and added or changed text to a small number of verses...
The Problem comes When the KJV and the Book of Mormon match 99.9%...
BUT the JST only matches the Book of Mormon 98%
Then you have to ask yourself why if the Book of Mormon is the most correct of any book, through divine inspiration or translation does it not match the other divinely inspired JST?
Rather than the KJV... it proves the verses were copied rather than inspired.
So you have 2 books by the same man, one trans/pired (Partly translated by partly inspired?) and the other just inspired... claiming to be divinely inspired from from the same source (God)
and yet these 2 match, less than the one translated through Hebrew/Greek/German into English. do you see why I don't get it? there is something wrong with the logic.
The picture on the puzzle piece matches, but the piece itself does not fit. <--- I have been advised to put the piece to one side and carry on with the puzzle.
I have also been advised to stop looking at the pits and grooves in the brush strokes and step back and look at the big picture.
I cannot it is not in my nature to ignore faults, I am a natural born fault finder.
This being the case The Book of Mormon in my eyes changes from being 'Another Testament of Jesus Christ.' to being a rip off testament of Jesus Christ.
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gdemetz wrote:Yes, seriously. Of the countless times I have read it, I have only seen a few minor grammatical errors, and an inconsistency of chapter divisions. For example, in 2 Nephi 14 (Isaiah 4), the first verse is the last verse in the JST of Isaiah 3. However, I have found quite a number of errors from reading the entire Bible.
"That errors of grammar and faults in dictation do exist in the Book of Mormon (and more especially and abundantly in the first edition) must be conceded; and what is more, while some of the errors may be referred to inefficient proof-reading, such as is to be expected in a country printing establishment, yet such is the nature of the errors in question, and so interwoven are they throughout the diction of the Book, that they may not be disposed of by saying they result from inefficient proof-reading or referring them to the mischievous disposition of the 'typos' or the unfriendliness of the publishing house. The errors are constitutional in their character; they are of the web and woof of the style, and not such errors as may be classed as typographical. Indeed, the first edition of the Book of Mormon is SINGULARLY FREE FROM TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS." (Defense of the Faith, by B. H. Roberts, pp. 280-281; reprinted in A New Witness For Christ in America, by Francis W. Kirkham, Vol. 1, pp. 200-201)
In a footnote on page 295 of the same book Mr. Roberts stated:
"But after due allowance is made for all these conditions, the errors are so numerous, and of such a constitutional nature, that they cannot be explained away by these unfavorable conditions under which the work was published."
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You are comparing apples to oranges. Yes, there were many minor errors in the Book of Mormon which I mentioned, most of them grammatical and have been corrected. How many in the Bible? Much more! Major errors in the Book of Mormon? None! Major errors in the Bible? There are at least thirty something!
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Re: No three degrees of Glory in 1 Cor 15
gdemetz wrote:You are comparing apples to oranges. Yes, there were many minor errors in the Book of Mormon which I mentioned, most of them grammatical and have been corrected. How many in the Bible? Much more! Major errors in the Book of Mormon? None! Major errors in the Bible? There are at least thirty something!
Can you show changes in the Bible like these in D&C ?
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My version of the magic being in the sky can beat up yours.
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Re: No three degrees of Glory in 1 Cor 15
Mittens, you are referring to that jumbled up mess of a site again which is hard to make heads or tails of their points! Their have been changes and correction to perfect these writings, but not to change doctrine. The Bible has major errors like , for example the contradiction in the accounts of Paul's vision of Christ. See, I am telling you plainly here!
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Mittens wrote:The Glories Paul is talking about is are Mortal Body "with no glory" versus our immortal body" full of Glory' easy to see in context
That's right, but your "FULL" comment shouldn't be in there, because the ACTUAL SCRIPTURE states that there are "different" Glory's, that of the Stars, Moon, & Sun.
What about the "Third Heaven" Paul mentions??? In fact, he specifically states "he knew a man who was caught up into that heaven".
Hey, that clearly verify's three glory's of Heaven....
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