Is God a Mormon?

[_Bazooka]

The Bible is clear to those seeking clarity. The Bible is evasive to those seeking excuses for themselves and their religious practices...

The Magic 8 Ball is clear for those seeking clarity. The Magic 8 Ball is evasive to those seeking excuses for themselves and their religious practices...

The Bible is one of the least clearest books ever produced. People cannot even agree what it's contents should be, what the stories are trying to say, wether the stories are real events or just stories etc. Your phrase above is really just saying that people can make The Bible say just about anything they want it to say, just like a Magic 8 Ball.

[_LittleNipper]

The Bible is clear to those seeking clarity. The Bible is evasive to those seeking excuses for themselves and their religious practices...

The Magic 8 Ball is clear for those seeking clarity. The Magic 8 Ball is evasive to those seeking excuses for themselves and their religious practices...

The Bible is one of the least clearest books ever produced. People cannot even agree what it's contents should be, what the stories are trying to say, wether the stories are real events or just stories etc. Your phrase above is really just saying that people can make The Bible say just about anything they want it to say, just like a Magic 8 Ball.

I'll even give a verse in King James English. Let's see you try to twist the message. It is plain to me, but then I'm not trying to promote a religion.

Psalm 14:1 ►

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
<A Psalm of David.>> The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

[_Albion]

I think you are missing some of the irony contained in subgenius's post that started this particluar line of discussion. I commented on this previously, wondering how he could post an argument that the Bible is generally understood the same way by most people when he comes from a perspective of Mormonism that "interprets" the Bible in ways contrary to the vast majority of believers. By its very nature, his support of Mormon Biblical theology demonstrates the failure of his claim. I submit that Christiandom as a whole does interpret the essentials (in my view those things directly pertaining to salvation) in pretty much the same way but the variety of Christian denominations does attest to the fact that many things are viewed differently.

[_LittleNipper]

I think you are missing some of the irony contained in subgenius's post that started this particluar line of discussion. I commented on this previously, wondering how he could post an argument that the Bible is generally understood the same way by most people when he comes from a perspective of Mormonism that "interprets" the Bible in ways contrary to the vast majority of believers. By its very nature, his support of Mormon Biblical theology demonstrates the failure of his claim. I submit that Christiandom as a whole does interpret the essentials (in my view those things directly pertaining to salvation) in pretty much the same way but the variety of Christian denominations does attest to the fact that many things are viewed differently.

I agree to a point; however, many "Christian" affiliated schools begin to become liberal. This has its affect on the institutions and churches that support them. The Methodist church was once very fundamental in its position. It has in many instances become rather UNITARIAN in its strategy. This causes splits and forms "new" organizations that hold to a stricter interpretation of scripture. The Catholic church originally split over icons and statuary. This led to the Roman Catholic church and the Orthodox church. Another split was over indulgences. This brought about the Luthurian church. As each group moves to becoming more liberal/corrupted, another more fundamental group comes to replace it. So yes, I believe in inerrancy of the Holy Bible. I believe it to be God's Word. I believe it to be historically accurate, and a revelation of the Messiah. I believe Jesus to be God in the flesh, who came as the ultimate/final sacrifice. I believe Jesus gave up His spirit and arose from the dead. I believe the Flood actually happened and was worldwide. I believe the Flood to be a representation to what will happen in the end times ---- namely worldwide JUDGMENT. I find that most people who say they are "Born Again" hold to these among other biblical beliefs naturally --- as a new creature in Christ. And I find that those who scoff are more into ritualism and personal satisfaction.

[_Bazooka]

I'll even give a verse in King James English. Let's see you try to twist the message. It is plain to me, but then I'm not trying to promote a religion.

Psalm 14:1 ►

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
<A Psalm of David.>> The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

No, but David was when he wrote it....

Now when David used the phrase "God" who did he mean?

[_LittleNipper]

I'll even give a verse in King James English. Let's see you try to twist the message. It is plain to me, but then I'm not trying to promote a religion.

Psalm 14:1 ►

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
<A Psalm of David.>> The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

No, but David was when he wrote it....

Now when David used the phrase "God" who did he mean?

David was writing of the Great three in one ---- the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. God placed in David's heart what to write. David didn't make it up himself.

[_Quasimodo]

David was writing of the Great three in one ---- the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. God placed in David's heart what to write. David didn't make it up himself.

The doctrine of the trinity is a much later concept. It doesn't appear until the New Testament. David had never heard of the Trinity.

You try to present yourself as an expert in all things Christian, but you are just trying to bolster your own ego. You are making it up as you go along. The Trinity must be a little annoyed at your hubris.

There must be some board somewhere that would be more acceptable of your fuzzy religious thinking. Here, you are at the bottom tier.

[_Always Changing]

The doctrine of the trinity is a much later concept.....There must be some board somewhere that would be more acceptable of your fuzzy religious thinking. Here, you are at the bottom tier.

[_LittleNipper]

David was writing of the Great three in one ---- the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. God placed in David's heart what to write. David didn't make it up himself.

The doctrine of the trinity is a much later concept. It doesn't appear until the New Testament. David had never heard of the Trinity.

You try to present yourself as an expert in all things Christian, but you are just trying to bolster your own ego. You are making it up as you go along. The Trinity must be a little annoyed at your hubris.

There must be some board somewhere that would be more acceptable of your fuzzy religious thinking. Here, you are at the bottom tier.

The prophets did not always understand what they wrote. Let us make man in our image is now understood in light of Jesus Christ. I accept the Bible. I am not an expert. Show me differently and together we will ponder.

[_Always Changing]

If you are a Mormon, you have precedent from the Mormon prophets for that kind of thinking. They frequently condemned the BC Jews for not following a religion that had not yet developed. If you are a Christian and not a Mormon, such reasoning is flawed, because the religion which developed from Jesus' teachings was at the same time both essentially Jewish, and a radical departure from Jewish thought.

The very concept of cannibalism, either symbolic or in some sense real, revolted Jewish sensibilities. Cannibalism did not occur, for example, at Masada. However, the Christian Eucharistic mystery was, 1500 years later, very effective in ending cannibalism half the world away.

When Jews reject the "cannibalism" of Catholic Christianity, there can be no response. However, it did result in an end to cannibalism among the Natives of the Americas (who were, as we know, not Jewish).