Horse and Chariots--Another Apologist Red Herring

[_Tobin]

http://www.desertusa.com/newut/du_newut_vvc.html

Oh, Newspaper rock. I am familiar with that one. The rider on a horse is not an Anasazi petroglyph. It's most likely Navajoe. The Anasazi disappeared nearly a thousand years ago. The petroglyph in the image is fairly new. One can tell by the fact that there is no patina on the engravings. Older petroglyphs start looking a little darker after several hundred years.
Honestly, Tobin, this has no value as proof of horses in the Book of Mormon.

I did not state it was a fact or proof. I stated it was supposition and we don't know when it was added or how old it is. Just that it isn't as old as some other petroglyphs on the rock perhaps.

[_Buffalo]

Yeah, and your "evidence" contains words like probably and dismisses real evidence because it doesn't fit the assumption in the case of the rock art. If that is evidence, then I have evidence that pigs can fly.

There WAS a spotted horse listed in that shipment. That's not a supposition. Your claim that the appaloosa was bred from antiquity in the Americas is backed by zero evidence.

[_Themis]

Yes, because a lack of evidence to-date proves that something never existed. I wonder in a thousand years if they will be able to prove that you ever existed?

Lack of evdience is considered evidence when evdience should be there. We see evidence for time periods before around 8-10k years ago. It's not a reasonable argument that evdience for earlier periods would disappear and not older ones we already have plenty of evdience for older periods. Look up absence of evdience to understand better how it works. Unfortunately some apologists make this bad argument.

How do scientists determine the disappearance of a certain species?

[_Buffalo]

How do you think that scientists determine when animals go extinct, Tobin? So far you've provided zero evidence of precolumbian horses. Do you have anything you're holding back?

Yes, because a lack of evidence to-date proves that something never existed. I wonder in a thousand years if they will be able to prove that you ever existed?

I wonder, then, how we can prove that the tyrannosaurus rex is extinct, if lack of evidence to date doesn't count.

[_Tobin]

I wonder, then, how we can prove that the tyrannosaurus rex is extinct, if lack of evidence to date doesn't count.

How about the Coelacanth? It went extinct 65 million years ago. Oh wait, but they aren't extinct.

[_SteelHead]

I know right..... If only large land animals instead hid I'm the depths of the oceans!

[_Tobin]

I know right..... If only large land animals instead hid I'm the depths of the oceans!

You never know. They might have gills and be trudging around in some deep dark ocean trench (and yes, I'm kidding - or am I?).

[_SteelHead]

Evidence erasing ray guns. Pew pew pew.

[_Buffalo]

I wonder, then, how we can prove that the tyrannosaurus rex is extinct, if lack of evidence to date doesn't count.

How about the Coelacanth? It went extinct 65 million years ago. Oh wait, but they aren't extinct.

Unless they evolved into seahorses, not bloody likely. In case you haven't noticed, we're terrestrial animals.

[_SteelHead]

Are you suggesting that coconuts are migratory?