Answers to Creationist Attacks on C-14 Dating

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Maksutov wrote:What Nipper and Z-Man, Franktalk and some others need is a time machine so they can be transported back to the good old days before electricity, vaccines and the printing press. There would be less technology and high living standards to distract them from their spiritual adventures. :lol:
good old days...

more death by variola, plague, diphteria, scarlet fever and many contaminations; (even cobweb usage for strapping...)
less death by traffic accidents
no death by nuclear bombs

and at that time dentists did their work this way:
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OUCH.
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Eliminating nerves in teeth - that's a piece of genetic engineering I can get behind.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
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"God" is the original deus ex machina. --Maksutov
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Maksutov wrote:Image

He speaks the truth. He has that special glow about him and goofy happy look that is the hallmark of the presence of the holy ghost.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/oct/07 ... l-20121007
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
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huckelberry wrote:
I thought natural selection involved the idea that creatures better adapted to survive in their enviroment had more surviving children than creatures not so adapted.


Sure, but if God is getting involved and changing DNA and such to move change until 6000 year ago then natural selection is not going on. If you have a God who just started it with with the various laws in place knowing where it will all end up then you can have what we define as natural selection.

Themis, I gather your main question is about efficiency. I have already stated I believe God created the pattern of events with the basic structures of things in the beginning. This would include atomic structure making possible the chemical combinations of which life consists. That is the traditional Christian belief. It is also the traditional Christian belief that God is not locked out of the world so may apply force to change events.


Traditional Christianity has a different time line then you. :wink:

God being eternal has no shortage of time and no reason to rush the process of life's development along. I see no reason to think that Gods love did not include dinosaurs. I suspect God was happy to give them their time. At least I have no reason not to think so.


And that's about the best argument you are going to see with that position. It just make much sens to me. IF the grand design from traditional Christianity is creating Man and the life we see today, God wasted a lot of time. There was no need of dinosaurs, or why he would need to go down that route. There's probably a huge number of different creatures, environments, etc God could create but didn't.
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spotlight wrote:
Maksutov wrote:Image

He speaks the truth. He has that special glow about him and goofy happy look that is the hallmark of the presence of the holy ghost.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/oct/07 ... l-20121007


From your article:

"According to the latest Gallup poll, 46% of Americans think God made humans within the past 10,000 years."

We have a lot of work to do, Spotlight. :wink:
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Maksutov wrote:From your article:

"According to the latest Gallup poll, 46% of Americans think God made humans within the past 10,000 years."

We have a lot of work to do, Spotlight. :wink:

That was 2012. It was 42% in 2014.
Those who accept natural evolution have doubled in the last decade. :razz:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/170822/belie ... igins.aspx
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The CCC wrote:LittleNipper.

NO! A fact is just an observation. Our sun is an observation. That is a fact. A Theory is the best explanation we currently have of that fact. That our sun is a giant ball of super-heated gas is the Theory. There is no collection of observations and/or theories that comes close to explaining a global flood during any time in human history.
SEE http://talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html


So, go develop one (regarding:There is no collection of observations and/or theories that comes close to explaining a global flood during any time in human history). I wont stop you but you will receive only insults from evolutionists and absolutely no encouragement or funding --- unlike evolutionists.
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The CCC wrote:LittleNipper.

NO! A fact is just an observation. Our sun is an observation. That is a fact. A Theory is the best explanation we currently have of that fact. That our sun is a giant ball of super-heated gas is the Theory. There is no collection of observations and/or theories that comes close to explaining a global flood during any time in human history.
SEE http://talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html


We can observe what the sun does. We cannot dismantle the sun to see how it actually works.
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