gdemetz wrote:What about Psalms 82:6, Nipper? "Ye are gods and all of you are the children of the Most High." Give us your so-called "Christian" interpretation of that.
I have said, ye are gods,.... In the law, Exodus 21:6 or they were so by his appointment and commission; he constituted them judges and magistrates, invested them with such an office, by which they came to have this title; see Romans 13:1, and so our Lord interprets these words, that they were gods "to whom" the word of God came, which gave them a commission and authority to exercise their office, John 10:35, or rather "against whom" it came, pronouncing the sentence of death on them, as in Psalm 82:7, to which the reference is; declaring, that though they were gods by office, yet were mortal men, and should die.
gdemetz wrote:You know NIpper, I had a boss one time who had a fake pile of feces on his desk which was given to him as a gift, and it had an inscription written on it which stated: "If you can't dazzel them with brilliance, then baffle them with B.S.!
No Nipper, my boss was not Mormon. He was before my time. Nipper, that is a false man made interpretation of the true meaning of that scripture even from the olden times. You omitted the last part which clearly states that "and all of you are the children of the Most High." This is consistent with the true meaning and interpretation! He wouldn't write that all of you are acting like gods, and then add and all of you are the children of the Most High. That does not make good sense, and it is not sound doctrine. It is only a poor excuse to justify a false teaching. You also apparently did not read all the quote of early theologians concerning this!
gdemetz wrote:No Nipper, my boss was not Mormon. He was before my time. Nipper, that is a false man made interpretation of the true meaning of that scripture even from the olden times. You omitted the last part which clearly states that "and all of you are the children of the Most High." This is consistent with the true meaning and interpretation! He wouldn't write that all of you are acting like gods, and then add and all of you are the children of the Most High. That does not make good sense, and it is not sound doctrine. It is only a poor excuse to justify a false teaching. You also apparently did not read all the quote of early theologians concerning this!
We can become His children through Jesus but not without Christ. We are not His on our merit or some birthright.
Genesis 13:1-11 So we find that Abram took his wife and nephew, plus all he had, and went back to the land God gave to him. And Abram was wealthy and had lots of cattle; however, this made it hard for pasturing, Lot had lots of cattle and the Canaanites also used the area to feed their flocks. This caused lots of arguments between the herders. So Abram and Lot parted on good terms. Lot headed to the very fertile plains of Sodom and Gomorrah and Zoar which he choose for himself. Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
1 And Abram goeth up from Egypt (he and his wife, and all that he hath, and Lot with him) towards the south;
2 and Abram [is] exceedingly wealthy in cattle, in silver, and in gold.
3 And he goeth on his journeyings from the south, even unto Bethel, unto the place where his tent had been at the commencement, between Bethel and Hai --
4 unto the place of the altar which he made there at the first, and there doth Abram preach in the name of Jehovah.
5 And also to Lot, who is going with Abram, there hath been sheep and oxen and tents;
6 and the land hath not suffered them to dwell together, for their substance hath been much, and they have not been able to dwell together;
7 and there is a strife between those feeding Abram's cattle and those feeding Lot's cattle; and the Canaanite and the Perizzite [are] then dwelling in the land.
8 And Abram saith unto Lot, `Let there not, I pray thee, be strife between me and thee, and between my shepherds and thy shepherds, for we [are] men -- brethren.
9 Is not all the land before thee? be parted, I pray thee, from me; if to the left, then I to the right; and if to the right, then I to the left.'
10 And Lot lifteth up his eyes, and seeth the whole circuit of the Jordan that it [is] all a watered country (before Jehovah's destroying Sodom and Gomorrah, as Jehovah's garden, as the land of Egypt,) in thy coming toward Zoar,
11 and Lot chooseth for himself the whole circuit of the Jordan; and Lot journeyeth from the east, and they are parted -- a man from his companion;
You are wrong again, Nipper, just like Albion! Hebrews 12:9 teaches that Heavenly Father is the Father of our spirits! Also, when Paul was speaking to the NON BELIEVING GREEKS on Mars Hill, he taught them that WE are His OFFSPRING!!!
Yea! You don't even have to be an expert in Greek to see that it's the same word that is used, meaning SON, and then the "Papa Joe" version wants to deliberately change it to fit their false beliefs! Then again, what else is new?!?
gdemetz wrote:Yea! You don't even have to be an expert in Greek to see that it's the same word that is used, meaning SON, and then the "Papa Joe" version wants to deliberately change it to fit their false beliefs! Then again, what else is new?!?
Genesis 2:7 & John 8:44 together Trump the Mormon understanding of what you imagine God is saying. The Book of Hebrews is directed to the Jews in general. They are a chosen people in general. As a chosen people they were to be representatives of God. Scripture must be interpreted based on other scripture. I consider myself a child of God, but that hinges on having a personal relationship with God through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. I have been reborn in the spirit. I am no longer controlled by satan. However, my linage still goes back to GOD creating Adam and not some god with a wife called wisdom having spirit babies. I am fully convinced such to be a lie of satan to corrupt, confound, and confuse.
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