Jonah and the Whale

[_Shulem]

Back in the day when I was a faithful Mormon I believed in the story of Jonah. No problem. It was just a matter of accepting it as fact and denying every reasonable argument to show it as being a rediculous myth made up by religious writers trying to maintain order.

I also had no problem accepting Mormon scriptures and considered them to be divine and as gifts from the same God who gave us the story of Jonah. Well, I came to realize that Joseph Smith made up his stories with a lot of help from his friends as they tried to outdo the established religions of their day by coming up with a so-called restoration. Just look at the restoration of the Facsimile No. 3 by the Explanations Joseph Smith tendered! Those are statements that embarrass any good Mormon.

Paul O

[_gdemetz]

I have seen that, but to be honest, I am not by a long shot qualified to try and interpret it. All I know is, according to FAIR, there are some experts who claim that Joseph Smith may be right.

[_Themis]

I have seen that, but to be honest, I am not by a long shot qualified to try and interpret it. All I know is, according to FAIR, there are some experts who claim that Joseph Smith may be right.

May be right about what specifically?

[_gdemetz]

Concerning his comments regarding the figures, I believe that's what was being disputed.

[_Themis]

Concerning his comments regarding the figures, I believe that's what was being disputed.

What figures specifically do you think Joseph may have got right?

[_gdemetz]

I would think all of them. Why would he bother to comment on only the figures if he didn't fell inspired to do so?

[_Themis]

I would think all of them. Why would he bother to comment on only the figures if he didn't fell inspired to do so?

When you say figures are you talking about the facsimiles?

[_gdemetz]

Yes.

[_Themis]

Yes.

OK. Now what specifically did Joseph get right in the facsimiles? It wound be nice for you to answer directly and not give some vague, you can check it out here. If you know he got some or much of it right you should be able to show some of them yourself.

Here is a good link to help you out

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Abraham

[_gdemetz]

Here we go again, Themis. You quote one site and I quote another. I am not an Egyptologist. Could I look at those and tell what they signify? No, I could not, but I trust what FAIR has to say about it as much as you trust Wikipedia.