LittleNipper wrote:God decides what is good and what is evil. And only God is good. One either agrees with God or imagines he knows what is good --- and satan agrees with what man imagines is good...
Sure groups claim their definition of what is good or bad comes from their God.
LittleNipper wrote:God decides what is good and what is evil.
totally disagree...i am not so sure that one can assume that God determined the Law, it may be more appropriate to consider that the Law determined God...in other words, God does not decide what is good or evil.
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LittleNipper wrote:The means always justify the ends.
Wow. That is so disgusting.
PS> How many babies were drowned in the Flood according to the Bible?
All of them.
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LittleNipper wrote:God decides what is good and what is evil. And only God is good. One either agrees with God or imagines he knows what is good --- and satan agrees with what man imagines is good...
Sure groups claim their definition of what is good or bad comes from their God.
Not if they are atheists. What do atheists believe? That man designs the laws and chooses what is the right thing at the right time. Of course They also believe what is right now might be wrong later and visa/versa...
Themis wrote: Sure groups claim their definition of what is good or bad comes from their God.
Not if they are atheists. What do atheists believe? That man designs the laws and chooses what is the right thing at the right time. Of course They also believe what is right now might be wrong later and visa/versa...
Wow. Sounds a lot like religionists.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
LittleNipper wrote:The means always justify the ends.
Wow. That is so disgusting.
PS> How many babies were drowned in the Flood according to the Bible?
All of them.
We have no indication that there were any babies or children around when the Flood started. Noah had no grandchildren. There is only an assumption of babies for those who are trying to cast a shadow on God's judgment. God's perfect timing may very well have been when only adults were around. So, there you are standing outside of the Ark and the rains begin... What would you say then?
malkie wrote:the suggestion that we cannot unequivocally tell what is good is nonsense
on the contrary, it is likely very sensible. If you are proposing that "good" is merely subjective then it like evil, in fact, does not actually exist in this context. This also must mean that you are amoral (which is a popular atheistic position, out of desperate necessity). Without an objective "good" there can be no cause for personal responsibility, no cause for justice, nor any cause for Law.
Given that, i would require that you back up your claim that it is indeed "nonsense".
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
LittleNipper wrote:God decides what is good and what is evil. And only God is good. One either agrees with God or imagines he knows what is good --- and satan agrees with what man imagines is good...
Whose God?
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LittleNipper wrote: We have no indication that there were any babies or children around when the Flood started. Noah had no grandchildren. There is only an assumption of babies for those who are trying to cast a shadow on God's judgment. God's perfect timing may very well have been when only adults were around. So, there you are standing outside of the Ark and the rains begin... What would you say then?
Oh, well because one guy didn't have any grandchildren, that must mean nobody did!!!!! Please list one single time in human history where there haven't been any children on the entire planet, and the garden of eden doesn't count.
Themis wrote:Sure groups claim their definition of what is good or bad comes from their God.
this is beside the point...the groups claims are eaily dissected and either validated or not. What matters is if there is, in fact, anything "good" or "bad". The idea that good/evil can be reduced to preference for the taste of chocolate over the taste of vanilla is absolutely absurd. If this is the route you are taking then you would have us believe that good and evil is just a matter of physiological conditioning, that this whole matter relies on the bio-chemical reactions being lugged around in these skin bags we call bodies. If that is your case then you are in for a rude awakening and will likely resist the actual "truth".
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent