God's body. Could Joseph Smith have been wrong.

[_aussieguy55]

If God has a body does he have a belly button and is he circumsised. Does God eat and why would he need to? Does he have a heart(pumping blood), lungs (breathing air)?

[_Gazelam]

I don't know alot about resurrected bodies other than what the scriptures themselves teach. The best account comes from the New Testament, although Christ does spend quite a bit of time among the Nephites as well.

Luke 24:36-48

36 ¶ And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48 And ye are witnesses of these things.

And also John 20:19-31

19 ¶ Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
20 And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.
21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
24 ¶ But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
26 ¶ And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
30 ¶ And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.


We know that a resurrected body is one of flesh and bone, but it does not have blood, that being the corruptable element. More than this, we cannot really say, though the prophets might say, it is not necessary for our salvation that we know.



See also Alma 11:41-45, 40:23-26

[_Kevin Graham]

Tarski, why would you think this teaching could work against Smith?

“If” something is wrong, then naturally it would. But it would first have to be demonstrated that it is wrong. However, current biblical scholarship is leaning in support of Smith’s understanding. Many Hebrew scholars agree that this is precisely how the Ancient Israelites understood God, and that man created in God’s “image” was understood literally, not metaphorically. Of course this doesn’t really prove Smith “restored” the doctrine through revelation since this is a common belief among some Rabbis.

I’ve written quite extensively on this matter if anyone wants to discuss it further.

[_Charity1]

Peace. The Glory of GOD is light and truth. As plain as word can be. If there be no Christ there be no God but there is a God and he is Christ. If Joseph Smith had studied the Book of Mormon so that he understood it he would not have given the King Folett address as he gave it. But here we are and all things have been done in the wisdom of him who knoweth all things. So the only true and living church teaches the precepts of men mingled with scripture and not the Doctrine of Jesus Christ. So when the Lord brings together all things in one we will know the truth. However we can be free now if we will.

[Guest]

Peace. The Glory of GOD is light and truth. As plain as word can be. If there be no Christ there be no God but there is a God and he is Christ. If Joseph Smith had studied the Book of Mormon so that he understood it he would not have given the King Folett address as he gave it. But here we are and all things have been done in the wisdom of him who knoweth all things. So the only true and living church teaches the precepts of men mingled with scripture and not the Doctrine of Jesus Christ. So when the Lord brings together all things in one we will know the truth. However we can be free now if we will.

Uh huh?!? That is a bunch of meaningless nonsense. News flash! There is no magical God. If god-like beings exist, they started off much like we did and evolved. Evolution is the cosmic imperative. Your mystical nonsense is not.

[_Amore]

Tobin,
How do you define magic?
Supernatural?

[_Tchild]

However we can be free now if we will.

"Now" is the only place that salvation is found.

[_Tobin]

Tobin,
How do you define magic?
Supernatural?

Magic is the ability to influence and change events by using mysterious or supernatural forces. These supernatural forces are thereby beyond scientific understanding and human reasoning and the laws of nature. As a result, magic and the supernatural does not exist. It is a primitive, irrational and superstitious way to view the natural world and diametrically opposed to science and reason. We live in a era of science and reason in which nature follows laws. We may not necessarily know all these laws, but in the scientific era we believe these laws will all be eventually described using reasonable scientific explanations.

[_Amore]

Tobin,
I agree that superstitions generally inspire more dysfunction than good.
And I also honor truths in science, but it seems in many ways, we've only scratched the surface. Applied and taught science has only gone so far partly because of the refusal to combine truths from various schools of thought.

Ie, science is clueless about the mind and subjectivity, despite overwhelming real conscious influence. Placebo effect is undeniable yet it seems that most scientists won't touch metaphysics with a 10-foot pole. Meanwhile, what we believe, whether logical or not does have influence. Since we cannot help but think in subjectively limited ways, it makes sense to consciously focus on thoughts that work for us rather than against us.

Along with reason and action, do you see the value and inevitability of faith?

[_Tobin]

Ie, science is clueless about the mind and subjectivity, despite overwhelming real conscious influence. Placebo effect is undeniable yet it seems that most scientists won't touch metaphysics with a 10-foot pole. Meanwhile, what we believe, whether logical or not does have influence. Since we cannot help but think in subjectively limited ways, it makes sense to consciously focus on thoughts that work for us rather than against us.

I'd quibble with the notion that we are clueless about the mind. We have been studying the mind for hundreds of years and every year we gain a better insight into how it functions.

Along with reason and action, do you see the value and inevitability of faith?

Faith is valuable if it is based on something that is true. For example, I have faith that the sun will come up in the morning. However, the opposite is also true. Faith can be harmful when it is based on something that IS NOT true.