The Importance of Claiming an "Unpaid Clergy"

[_Joseph]

mr space wrote: "If you saw them taking extended vacations in Bermuda and the like, you all might have a point."
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What you do with the money has nothing to with the fact you are paid.

[_bcspace]

What you do with the money has nothing to with the fact you are paid.

Not according to the context of scripture. Jesus was a skilled artisan. Why would he have to have other people put him up if he could afford an inn?

[_Buffalo]

It's quite simple really. Contextually, the prophets and Jesus and the apostles living off the membership the way they did was not considered priestcraft in the scriptures then so such cannot possibly be considered today.

If you saw them taking extended vacations in Bermuda and the like, you all might have a point.

Did Jesus have a luxury condo (let's say a palace, the ancient equivalent) and all travel expenses paid by the early Christians? Did he get a "stipend" that would put him in the upper 2% income bracket for the area?

[_just me]

Did I miss a post where BC explains the difference between a just renumeration and a salary?

[_bcspace]

Did Jesus have a luxury condo (let's say a palace, the ancient equivalent)

He lived with the rich sinners and tax collectors yes.

and all travel expenses paid by the early Christians?

I thnk we can so assume so if we use your logic towards today's apostles and prophets. Jesus didn't travel far. The orignial apostles certainly did.

Did he get a "stipend" that would put him in the upper 2% income bracket for the area?

Are they stashing money away somewhere? What do the apostles and prophets have materially from the Church that the rest of the population in the USA doesn't have normally?

[_Buffalo]

He lived with the rich sinners and tax collectors yes.

Is staying at someone's house for a day or two the same as taking up permanent residence in a luxury condo paid for with widows' mites?

I thnk we can so assume so if we use your logic towards today's apostles and prophets. Jesus didn't travel far. The orignial apostles certainly did.

Anything you can point to in the scriptures besides "foot oil expense" and one donkey?

Are they stashing money away somewhere? What do the apostles and prophets have materially from the Church that the rest of the population in the USA doesn't have normally?

Free luxury cars, free meals, free first class transportation, free luxury condos, and an income, by all accounts, much higher than most Americans.



Don't these guys ever read the Book of Mormon?

[_madeleine]

Not to throw stones, because I'm fairly certain there is not an equivalent to an Apostolic Palace...BUT...I worked with a man for a while who is in the construction trade. He had a job under Zion's Securities, in Hawaii for a few months, where he was renovating the GA's beach house...so not Bermuda, but something very nice!

[_bcspace]

Are they stashing money away somewhere? What do the apostles and prophets have materially from the Church that the rest of the population in the USA doesn't have normally?

Free luxury cars, free meals, free first class transportation, free luxury condos, .

You didn't answer the question. But even if you're not exaggerating (and I think you are having had some experience with the GA's myself) how is any of this a problem?

and an income, by all accounts, much higher than most Americans

What is done with this income? How is it pay and not support?

[_bcspace]

Since we're diverging off topic, I see that everyone must have agreed with my explaination of why having an unpaid ministry is important by the way.

[_bcspace]

He lived with the rich sinners and tax collectors yes.

Is staying at someone's house for a day or two the same as taking up permanent residence in a luxury condo paid for with widows' mites?

CFR