just me wrote:What I am curious about is these men who don't seem to love their wives very much. Like all she is just a chess piece.
harmony wrote:
Melchett wrote:It boils down to a question of faith. If you truly believe that the messenger of God is telling this, then what are you going to do? Incur the wrath by disobeying?
Well, you'd know for certain that the messenger was not from God. It's only men that see women as things.
This. So much!
If god asked such a thing he wouldn't be a god worth worshipping, let alone obeying. He'd be a disgusting sexist jerk.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
Melchett wrote:What it was a test of faith, like Abraham with Isaac?
Abraham failed. What kind of god would ask you to murder one of your children to prove yourself to him? A disgusting jerk.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
subgenius wrote:i mean to say, why would i not allow it?
Interesting. Would your wife be given a say in the decision?
given the doctrine of free agency, of course she would...and it would not be necessary to "give" her a say.....do you know much about the Mormon church after the 1900's?
But, please, i have been courteous enough to respond to your question, why won't you respond to mine? it was simple enough....."why wouldn't I?"
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subgenius wrote:given the doctrine of free agency, of course she would...and it would not be necessary to "give" her a say.....do you know much about the Mormon church after the 1900's?
But, please, i have been courteous enough to respond to your question, why won't you respond to mine? it was simple enough....."why wouldn't I?"
If she refused, per D&C 132 she's in sin and the choice is taken away from her. So she really had no choice to begin with.
You wouldn't if you actually loved your wife. Apparently you don't.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Not a chance. Not a snowballs chance in a warm place.
If God stood before me Himself and commanded that I give my wife to the Prophet or (as someone mentioned Abraham) comanded me to sacrifice my son, I would look Him square in the eye and tell Him no.
No.
I love my wife and kids more than I love God. (subgenius, this is 'why wouldn't I?')
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
I’d give him my wife to do with as he wished. He’d grant me life everlasting in the Celestial Kingdom.
It would be an eminently fair trade. Since I’m not married, I don’t have a wife to give him. And since he’s not really a prophet, he doesn’t have salvation to give me. It’d be like swapping a deed to the Island of Manhattan for the right to colonize the Mariana Trench.
Edit to add: For what it's worth, of the two, my pretend wife would be Manhattan.
I would pray about it and see if I had the necessary visitation of all all deceased members of the Mormon Tabernacle choir singing "Do What Is Right"...If that didn't produce any satisfactory results, the decision would depend on what Cosmopolitan Magazine had to say about it. Wise people at Cosmo.
Not many Mormons volunteering their wives on this one.
I will bet that the majority of believing Mormons will take the view that the question doesn't matter because the Prophet will never ask it.
But the Prophet did ask it and some men 'gave' him their wives.
Believing Mormons, would you follow the Prophet on this?
(subgenius has agreed that he would authorise it but his wife would get the final say).
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Drifting wrote:Not many Mormons volunteering their wives on this one.
I will bet that the majority of believing Mormons will take the view that the question doesn't matter because the Prophet will never ask it.
But the Prophet did ask it and some men 'gave' him their wives.
Believing Mormons, would you follow the Prophet on this?
(subgenius has agreed that he would authorise it but his wife would get the final say).
Drifting, I think you are right. As a believer, it is almost incomprehensible to think the prophet would ask to marry your wife. Much more likely he'll ask you to take on an additional wife.
I don't think believers think it possible that the prophet is living polygamy in secret right now, even though that is exactly what Joseph Smith did.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
