How the Church spends tithing...

[_subgenius]

Now you know how members feel when they ask to see the Church's financial statements...

why bother asking when you post such great information yourself....
for example
"staff related to 'missionary work' - which I think is almost exclusively Mission President salaries."

how "you think" could not be better illuminated than by the actual facts which contradict you.

[_Drifting]

So, now that we have established that MTC teachers are among the "staff related" we can forgo the formality of you actually conceding this point, surely you must be tired from having to do it so often.

Sorry subgenius, but once again you are erroneous.
MTC teachers who receive a salary do so under the CES banner, which is a separate cost line. As you have had pointed out already that travel costs etc are also paid under a separate cost heading....

Over to you for more wild guesses as to who gets paid a salary under 'missionary work' other than Mission Presidents....

[_Buffalo]

So, now that we have established that MTC teachers are among the "staff related" we can forgo the formality of you actually conceding this point, surely you must be tired from having to do it so often.

Sorry subgenius, but once again you are erroneous.
MTC teachers who receive a salary do so under the CES banner, which is a separate cost line. As you have had pointed out already that travel costs etc are also paid under a separate cost heading....

Over to you for more wild guesses as to who gets paid a salary under 'missionary work' other than Mission Presidents....

Oh schnap!

[Guest]

Sorry subgenius, but once again you are erroneous.
MTC teachers who receive a salary do so under the CES banner, which is a separate cost line. As you have had pointed out already that travel costs etc are also paid under a separate cost heading....

Over to you for more wild guesses as to who gets paid a salary under 'missionary work' other than Mission Presidents....

citation, please - or once again concede that you are making most of this stuff up

(note: you have yet to provide the original reference,as requested, for the OP, and thus are still operating under the "so you say" mode - in my opinion you are making claims without any support....is not the burden upon you?)

...and by the way...the CES "banner" is distinct from the monies mentioned in the OP how? (citation please)

[_Drifting]

Sorry subgenius, but once again you are erroneous.
MTC teachers who receive a salary do so under the CES banner, which is a separate cost line. As you have had pointed out already that travel costs etc are also paid under a separate cost heading....

Over to you for more wild guesses as to who gets paid a salary under 'missionary work' other than Mission Presidents....

citation, please - or once again concede that you are making most of this stuff up

(note: you have yet to provide the original reference,as requested, for the OP, and thus are still operating under the "so you say" mode - in my opinion you are making claims without any support....is not the burden upon you?)

I provided you with the link.
If you are too lazy to sign yourself up to be able to access official UK company accounts, including the Churches, well that's on you not me.

In the mean time...

who gets paid a salary under 'missionary work' other than Mission Presidents....?

[_subgenius]

I provided you with the link.
If you are too lazy to sign yourself up to be able to access official UK company accounts, including the Churches, well that's on you not me.

In the mean time...

who gets paid a salary under 'missionary work' other than Mission Presidents....?

there is no link to "sign up" for service, nor is there an actual link to the information that you allege exists...so, given your bias and position, it is likely you are being deceitful about your data.
Additionally, you have provided no link for the justufucation that all MTC employees are paid under the CES "banner" and that this "banner" is distinct from the monies described in the OP.

Again, you made the claim, the burden is on you (it is not my burden to find your proof for you - as we say "put up or shut up") - otherwise you are conceding that your position is unjustified and likely just another of your fantasises.

[_Drifting]

I provided you with the link.
If you are too lazy to sign yourself up to be able to access official UK company accounts, including the Churches, well that's on you not me.

In the mean time...

who gets paid a salary under 'missionary work' other than Mission Presidents....?

there is no link to "sign up" for service, nor is there an actual link to the information that you allege exists...so, given your bias and position, it is likely you are being deceitful about your data.
Additionally, you have provided no link for the justufucation that all MTC employees are paid under the CES "banner" and that this "banner" is distinct from the monies described in the OP.

Again, you made the claim, the burden is on you (it is not my burden to find your proof for you - as we say "put up or shut up") - otherwise you are conceding that your position is unjustified and likely just another of your fantasises.

I have provided you with proof - the data from actual published accounts.
I know you don't want it to be real, but hey, such is life.

Go to 'Companies House Direct' get yourself an account, look up the Church and download the latest set of accounts. I've put up, now your turn...

[_Drifting]

it is likely you are being deceitful about your data.

Find me some evidence from my posts (any of my posts) that show me as deceitful?
If you can't, well then I expect an apology...

[_subgenius]

I have provided you with proof - the data from actual published accounts.

actually, you have not provided any proof. You saying it is so, is not the same as "providing proof".

Go to 'Companies House Direct' get yourself an account, look up the Church and download the latest set of accounts. I've put up, now your turn...

again, the burden is not mine...why not just post your password?

and yes, i accept your concession that CES funds are not distinct from your OP...and that MTC employees (teachers, etc.), staff who produce the pass-along cards, staff producing the Book of Mormon for the missionaries to pass out, staff associated with supplemental financial support, the staff associated with limited health care provided, care lease staff, etc. are included in the
"£0.5 million for staff related to 'missionary work'"

i assume that when you write 'missionary work' you are paraphrasing....but of course, as with all your reported "facts" we just have to "assume" they are actual facts, because your unwillingness to actual provide "proof" is acceptable to that end....correct?

[_subgenius]

I have provided you with proof - the data from actual published accounts.
I know you don't want it to be real, but hey, such is life.

Go to 'Companies House Direct' get yourself an account, look up the Church and download the latest set of accounts. I've put up, now your turn...

maybe you should take Themis's advice, as offered HERE
on the Jonah Whale thread

You do have a problem in this area, and many have told you. Try learning how to use the quote feature, and especially how to link other sites if you want reference a site. Once you learn how to link a site it would also be good to make sure you link to the specific parts of a site you think supports what you are saying.

(emphasis mine)