Why Do LDS Dismiss the Greater Part of the New Testament?

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Re: Why Do LDS Dismiss the Greater Part of the New Testament

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You are quite the insulter, aren't you gdemetz.! I repeat....one single verse in the New Testament that mentions eternal marriage. So far you have given nothing only verses that you extend and infer support it. I admit, the concept is appealing but there is nothing there to support it in reality.
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You are as spiritually blind as a bat is physically blind, Albion! What exactly is your interpretation of a husband and wife becoming HEIRS TOGETHER of the grace of life, and what is your interpretation of something being bound on earth and heaven, an alter call?! I'm probably going to regret asking!
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gdemetz wrote:You are as spiritually blind as a bat is physically blind, Albion! What exactly is your interpretation of a husband and wife becoming HEIRS TOGETHER of the grace of life, and what is your interpretation of something being bound on earth and heaven, an alter call?! I'm probably going to regret asking!


Why did Christ say that there is no marriage in heaven?
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He stated that "the children of this world" don't. This is a phrase that he never used when referring to His disciples; it was a dig at the Sadducees.
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gdemetz wrote:He stated that "the children of this world" don't. This is a phrase that he never used when referring to His disciples; it was a dig at the Sadducees.


You are correct. And in giving this answer you have provided us (unwittingly?) with yet another example of why Mormons cannot be classed as part of Christianity...

However, Mormon leaders have interpreted this passage quite differently than the historic Christian view. LDS Apostle Bruce R. McConkie wrote: "What then is the Master Teacher affirming by saying, 'in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven'? He is not denying but limiting the prevailing concept that there will be marrying and giving in marriage in heaven. He is saying that as far as 'they' (the Sadducees) are concerned, that as far as 'they' ('the children of this world') are concerned, the family unit does not and will not continue in the resurrection. Because he does not choose to cast his pearls before swine, and because the point at issue is not marriage but resurrection anyway, Jesus does not here amplify his teaching to explain that there is marrying and giving of marriage in heaven only for those who live the fulness of gospel law-a requirement which excludes worldly people" (Doctrinal New Testament Commentary 1:605,606).
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McConkie is exactly correct also. The Sadducees would have no reason to even ask the question except for the fact that they knew that the saints taught that! They certainly did not believe that, and if the saints didn't believe it either, then why would they even ask such a question in the first place?! That's the problem with apostate Christendom; they are ignorant and dumb! That why it was necessary for a restitution of all things!!!
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gdemetz wrote:McConkie is exactly correct also. The Sadducees would have no reason to even ask the question except for the fact that they knew that the saints taught that! They certainly did not believe that, and if the saints didn't believe it either, then why would they even ask such a question in the first place?! That's the problem with apostate Christendom; they are ignorant and dumb! That why it was necessary for a restitution of all things!!!


There are two reasons why the church needed to be restored. The primary reason was to restore the authority (keys) of the priesthood. The second reason was the leadership in all existing churches was of man and could not accept being guided by the Holy Spirit. Just as the Jews rejected Christ at His first coming they would have rejected Him appearing before them. Can you imagine if any leader of any church suddenly came out one day with totally new doctrine and said that he received a vision. The fight and rejection would have stopped the restoration. Only those who would be guided by the Spirit could see the truth. Although all churches have members who are guided by the Spirit I find it hard to believe that the leaders of the other churches would suddenly change their worldly ways. Anyone who went to school to learn scripture instead of being guided is in error.
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Franktalk wrote:
gdemetz wrote:McConkie is exactly correct also. The Sadducees would have no reason to even ask the question except for the fact that they knew that the saints taught that! They certainly did not believe that, and if the saints didn't believe it either, then why would they even ask such a question in the first place?! That's the problem with apostate Christendom; they are ignorant and dumb! That why it was necessary for a restitution of all things!!!


There are two reasons why the church needed to be restored. The primary reason was to restore the authority (keys) of the priesthood. The second reason was the leadership in all existing churches was of man and could not accept being guided by the Holy Spirit. Just as the Jews rejected Christ at His first coming they would have rejected Him appearing before them. Can you imagine if any leader of any church suddenly came out one day with totally new doctrine and said that he received a vision. The fight and rejection would have stopped the restoration. Only those who would be guided by the Spirit could see the truth. Although all churches have members who are guided by the Spirit I find it hard to believe that the leaders of the other churches would suddenly change their worldly ways. Anyone who went to school to learn scripture instead of being guided is in error.


So do you think the Pope leads Catholicism without reference to the Holy Spirit?
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Drifting wrote:So do you think the Pope leads Catholicism without reference to the Holy Spirit?


That is true. Why else would he declare himself the vicar of Jesus on the earth. And why would I think a Pope who believes that what he says can overrule scripture is of God?
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Amen FrankTalk!
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