Adam, first man circa 4,000 bc....?

[_ludwigm]

Radiation and quantum mechanics, like global warming and evolution, is a liberal secularist conspiracy.

not really, they just require and rely on much being taken on faith.

Not really if you take the time with an open mind to actually learn the science.

... which is the hallmark of the USA today.

Forty-six percent of Americans believe in the creationist view that God created humans in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years. The prevalence of this creationist view of the origin of humans is essentially unchanged from 30 years ago, when Gallup first asked the question. About a third of Americans believe that humans evolved, but with God's guidance; 15% say humans evolved, but that God had no part in the process.

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=604640#p604640

[_Drifting]

What is the attraction of old pottery; and only fragments at that?

I would much rather date Frank.

And he's much older than Adam!

[_jo1952]

What is the attraction of old pottery; and only fragments at that?

I would much rather date Frank.

And he's much older than Adam!

And I'm actually a few months older than Frank......rats.......

[_Samantabhadra]

Oldest DNA Recovered from 7,000-Year Old Skeletons in Spain

'The bones of the two young adult males were found in a cave in the Cantabarian mountain range in 2006 by a handful of explorers, 4,920 feet above sea level. The cold atmosphere is what preserved the DNA in the remains of the two bodies. The cavemen lived during the Mesolithic period and were hunter-gatherers, as determined by an ornament one of the skeletons was holding. They have named the two skeletons Braña1 and Braña2 after the Braña-Arintero site in which they were discovered. They were in near-perfect condition.'"

[_LittleNipper]

Even a little common sense will tell one it is much older then 10000 years. The grand canyon does not point to a major disruption, but a slow steady erosion over millions of years. Same with mountain ranges like the alps. Look at the Appalachians. They are much older and much more worn down then say the Rockies. They can even measure how some ranges are currently growing like the Himalayas. The coal fields are millions of years old and take that long to create them. The problem here is not science but those who reject what doesn't fit what they want to believe.

Science is but a tool. Any tool can be misapplied. I disagree with your interpretation because I know there is a God and He said there was a Flood. God being an artist created a complex ecological system which the Fall seems to indicate He left open ended. Time is god to the uniformitarian. God creates in 6 literal days. I see GOD. You see time.

[_Drifting]

Even a little common sense will tell one it is much older then 10000 years. The grand canyon does not point to a major disruption, but a slow steady erosion over millions of years. Same with mountain ranges like the alps. Look at the Appalachians. They are much older and much more worn down then say the Rockies. They can even measure how some ranges are currently growing like the Himalayas. The coal fields are millions of years old and take that long to create them. The problem here is not science but those who reject what doesn't fit what they want to believe.

Science is but a tool. Any tool can be misapplied. I disagree with your interpretation because I know there is a God and He said there was a Flood. God being an artist created a complex ecological system which the Fall seems to indicate He left open ended. Time is god to the uniformitarian. God creates in 6 literal days. I see GOD. You see time.

Actually...God may have said nothing of the sort.
It was the guy writing the story of Noah who alleges God said those things. A third hand account of a handed down legend at best.
In fact, you have no idea what, if anything, God has said about anything at all. You just have what other people say He has said. You're putting your trust in them rather than God when you choose to believe what they have written down.

[_krose]

That's right. When given the choice between two explanations, always choose the one based on stories written down by superstitious tribes thousands of years ago, over the one developed through research and scientific inquiry.

[_subgenius]

That's right. When given the choice between two explanations, always choose the one based on stories written down by superstitious tribes thousands of years ago, over the one developed through research and scientific inquiry.

they "observed", and "examined", and through thousands of years of "peer review" determined their results to be valid......too bad about those blinders about your head
but hey, atheists have that great creation story that goes like this:
first there nothing
then nothing exploded and made dinosaurs
and now nothing may either be expanding or contracting
...awesome!

[_son of Ishmael]

That's right. When given the choice between two explanations, always choose the one based on stories written down by superstitious tribes thousands of years ago, over the one developed through research and scientific inquiry.

And the stories written down by superstitious tribes make people feel good.

[_Drifting]

That's right. When given the choice between two explanations, always choose the one based on stories written down by superstitious tribes thousands of years ago, over the one developed through research and scientific inquiry.

they "observed", and "examined", and through thousands of years of "peer review" determined their results to be valid......too bad about those blinders about your head
but hey, atheists have that great creation story that goes like this:
first there nothing
then nothing exploded and made dinosaurs
and now nothing may either be expanding or contracting
...awesome!

Subby, do you believe that Adam was the first man and he lived from 4,000 bc as the Church states in its chronology?
[ ] Yes
[ ] No