Is God a Mormon?

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_ludwigm
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Re: Is God a Mormon?

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bcspace wrote:
Well, I heard for a fact in my LDS Gospel Doctrine Class that Adam was a Mormon and I assume that somewhere there has been LDS speculation that God and Jesus were also Mormon.

So what is the scoop of this?
They are all Mormons though of course the Church wasn't necessarily known by that name in the past. The LDS Church is the only true Church according to God (D&C 1:30)

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3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

...said Jesus.

we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.

...said Keith McMullin, Presiding Bishopric.
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)
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Maybe, maybe not. But Adolf Hitler is. Baptized and even sealed to Eva Braun.
“If paying tithing means that you can’t pay for water or electricity, pay tithing. If paying tithing means that you can’t pay your rent, pay tithing. Even if paying tithing means that you don’t have enough money to feed your family, pay tithing." Ensign/2012/12
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Mktavish wrote:You must be a fan of drifting's ... he had that on his sig ... :surprised:
Likely he is, and always will be, Drifting's biggest fan
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Re: Is God a Mormon?

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Zelig, Subby, do you believe what Keith McMullin said accurately reflects the doctrine of Mormonism?
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)
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Bazooka wrote:Zelig, Subby, do you believe what Keith McMullin said accurately reflects the doctrine of Mormonism?

You troll those ex-mormon sites too much. You conveniently omit McMullin's complete quote...you know the part about
"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints attends to the total needs of its members, We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal..."


cited from your favorte Bloomberg article, of course....and he was speaking from his position as the CEO at DMC, not as a church authority...so he is not establishing "doctrine"....

However, his logic is sound...and while it does not reflect any particular doctrine, per se, it does reflect a reasonable conclusion from the scriptures.
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subgenius wrote:
However, his logic is sound...and while it does not reflect any particular doctrine, per se, it does reflect a reasonable conclusion from the scriptures.


The notion that the rich spiritually progress while the poor do not, seems a radical departure from the exact words of Jesus in the New Testament. Jesus thought that it would be more difficult for the rich to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Then again, Jesus was not involved with high finance and running a complex and profitable corporation like Elder McMullin so his perspective would be different.
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subgenius wrote:
Bazooka wrote:Zelig, Subby, do you believe what Keith McMullin said accurately reflects the doctrine of Mormonism?

You troll those ex-mormon sites too much. You conveniently omit McMullin's complete quote...you know the part about
"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints attends to the total needs of its members, We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal..."


cited from your favorte Bloomberg article, of course....and he was speaking from his position as the CEO at DMC, not as a church authority...so he is not establishing "doctrine"....

However, his logic is sound...and while it does not reflect any particular doctrine, per se, it does reflect a reasonable conclusion from the scriptures.


Really?
You think people being impoverished temporally is a significant hinderance to their spiritual development?
Did it hinder Jesus?
You think that is a doctrinal truth?
Seriously?
Why don't Bishops ask about potential converts level of temporal well being?
"Yes Potential Convert, I know you believe the Church is true, but do you have the moola necessary to blossom?"
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)
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Re: Is God a Mormon?

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moksha wrote:
subgenius wrote:
However, his logic is sound...and while it does not reflect any particular doctrine, per se, it does reflect a reasonable conclusion from the scriptures.


The notion that the rich spiritually progress while the poor do not,

that is not what was said, you are drawing your own conclusion in order to satisfy your own prejudice.
One can certainly be rich and NOT spiritually progress.
The point was that temporal impoverishment - which not only means poor but also the deprivation of natural richness and natural strength...it is narrow minded to assume that the only inference is for money.
Nevertheless, the Bible is quite clear....God never commands people to not help the poor (because the poor are doing just fine)...God promises blessings and progress to those that help lift up the poor...not those who remain poor...or to those who even become impoverished...
...wait!
do not confuse the Lord commanding a rich man to give away his riches with becoming "impoverished"...for that is not the intention of the Lord at all, this is obvious.

First you should understand that being impoverished is not necessarily about money...and then understand that Jesus did not teach what you say here.


moksha wrote: seems a radical departure from the exact words of Jesus in the New Testament. Jesus thought that it would be more difficult for the rich to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Then again, Jesus was not involved with high finance and running a complex and profitable corporation like Elder McMullin so his perspective would be different.

You seemingly have never studied the scriptures, the perverse position that God wants, or does not care, if people are sick and poor is alarming for a literate person.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty
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