Hopewell/Nephite Forts

[_tapirrider]

The Hopewell built amazing mound structures. The Hopewell civilization fits the Book of Mormon like a glove.

Almost as if the Book of Mormon was written based on 19th Century ideas about the mounds.

[_bomgeography]

Excellent point Joseph Smith was probably an expert on the Hopewell Civilization and new the Hopewell disappeared at the exact time the Nephites were wiped out 400AD.

While the cause of the cultural shift away from Hopewell practices may be unclear, this change had occurred by around A.D. 400
(Theler and Boszhardt 2003:121).

[_Maksutov]

The Hopewell built amazing mound structures. The Hopewell civilization fits the Book of Mormon like a glove.

Almost as if the Book of Mormon was written based on 19th Century ideas about the mounds.

Even B. H. Roberts commented on it.

Just like the alt-histories of Lemuria and Atlantis that still have their devotees, including in the pages of Ancient American magazine. Just like the followers of Velikovsky and von Daniken and the creationists. Pseudohistorical subcultures and their parasitic cottage industries to which McKane aspires.

[_bomgeography]

Even B. H. Roberts commented on it.

Just like the alt-histories of Lemuria and Atlantis that still have their devotees, including in the pages of Ancient American magazine. Just like the followers of Velikovsky and von Daniken and the creationists. Pseudohistorical subcultures and their parasitic cottage industries to which McKane aspires.

Stay on topic Maksutov Im losing you.

[_Maksutov]

Even B. H. Roberts commented on it.

Just like the alt-histories of Lemuria and Atlantis that still have their devotees, including in the pages of Ancient American magazine. Just like the followers of Velikovsky and von Daniken and the creationists. Pseudohistorical subcultures and their parasitic cottage industries to which McKane aspires.

Stay on topic Maksutov Im losing you.

Nephite forts are as real as Lemurian cities and Martian canals.

[_tapirrider]

Excellent point Joseph Smith was probably an expert on the Hopewell Civilization and new the Hopewell disappeared at the exact time the Nephites were wiped out 400AD.

While the cause of the cultural shift away from Hopewell practices may be unclear, this change had occurred by around A.D. 400
(Theler and Boszhardt 2003:121).

The Hopewell people did not disappear, their culture shifted. The people did not just disappear as if they were Nephites who were wiped out. The Roman empire collapsed around the same time too. Joseph Smith would not need to somehow magically know about the Hopewell or when their culture shifted. The Book of Mormon could just as likely have been based on 19th century ideas about mounds and put into the approximate timeline of the Roman empire. In that case, it would just be a lucky coincidence that the timelines matched up. It is worthwhile to consider what is more plausible - an ancient history coming from words appearing on a rock inside a hat or a fabricated story based on what was known, what was thought to be the case at the time, what was imagined and with some coincidental overlap.

[_bomgeography]

approximately 200 B.C. and A.D. 400, at the outside, the Hopewell culture of the mid- western United States emerged from obscure origins, expanded widely to effect in greater or lesser degree neighboring and even re- mote groups, and then disappeared.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... a00030/pdf

Some archeologist have suggested war for the cause of there disappearance but they don't know for.

[_tapirrider]

approximately 200 B.C. and A.D. 400, at the outside, the Hopewell culture of the mid- western United States emerged from obscure origins, expanded widely to effect in greater or lesser degree neighboring and even re- mote groups, and then disappeared.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... a00030/pdf

Some archeologist have suggested war for the cause of there disappearance but they don't know for.

The people didn't disappear. Do some real research instead of cherry picking and looking for only what you want to see.

[_Maksutov]

approximately 200 B.C. and A.D. 400, at the outside, the Hopewell culture of the mid- western United States emerged from obscure origins, expanded widely to effect in greater or lesser degree neighboring and even re- mote groups, and then disappeared.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... a00030/pdf

Some archeologist have suggested war for the cause of there disappearance but they don't know for.

The people didn't disappear. Do some real research instead of cherry picking and looking for only what you want to see.

No matter what, McKane will insist on his imaginary Nephites. Meldrum has produced a cult and McKane is a zealot.

[_tapirrider]

No matter what, McKane will insist on his imaginary Nephites. Meldrum has produced a cult and McKane is a zealot.

It is really starting to get old. He is banned from many other forums and blogs and just continues the same nonsense here, no matter how many facts are presented to him. And he is turning to lies, personal attacks and taunting. I don't enjoy watching this train wreck.