harmony wrote:Whoa. Sure there is. I'm in Mormonism. ;-)
I grant your point, of course.
Far be it from me to disagree with you on such a matter.
But I didn't say "There's no defect in Mormonism or in Mormon history." I said "That's no defect in Mormonism or in Mormon history." The That referred to the fact that no point, of or in any story, is greater than Christ.
And they say you have no sense of humor.... ;-)
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
cinepro wrote:That sounds like a lot of really good presentations. I'm most interested in Don Bradley's.
Every year I think "This is the year" I'll finally go to one of these things. But, August being my busiest time at work, it's never a good time.
As I've said every year for the last 8 years, "I'll go next year".
I'm usually busy too, and this year is no different. Last year I made it and it was well worth it. This article makes it sound just as good. I should really try, but my wife is due that weekend, which will make it difficult to plan anything, and work is piling up too. I still think I can squeeze it in. Of course I'm quite close to the venue so that helps.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
I know a lot of Mormons that believe that God has inspired scientists and innovators all through history in the many great ideas that have brought us the wonderful technology and knowledge that we have in our present day and age. This idea has come directly from our prophets and apostles.
Many scientists agree that Charles Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection is probably the greatest scientific finding of the last two centuries.
Patriarchal gripe wrote:Many scientists agree that Charles Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection is probably the greatest scientific finding of the last two centuries.
Is it possible that God also inspired Darwin?
It's possible.
I read on the Internet, from time to time, that I'm a young-earth creationist. This claim surprises me a great deal, but I have fairly good reason to doubt it.
Charles G. Finney started his preaching in 1821. Maybe that was the spark that led to the explosion of modern science.
The Inquisition officially ended in 1820. Maybe that was the precipitating event that led to the Industrial Revolution.
Or whatever. Not sure what the point of the article is. That Mormonism began in the cultural milieu of the Second Great Awakening in the Burned-Over District of the American frontier? That it began in the "cradle of liberty." Pretty uncontroversial stuff there. Or is there an argument implied in the article that the revolutions in science experienced in the 19th century and continuing to the present was somehow "triggered" by the founding of Mormonism? If that's the argument (and it's not at all clear that it is, as the article appears to be nothing more than a series of strung-together non sequiturs), why choose that one event from the period 1815-1830 as the one that set everything off? What's the logical connection?
The cited work by Johnson (The Birth of the Modern: World Society 1815-1830) is a great and informative read. It is, as noted, very long, at over 1000 pages. I'm not sure Johnson devotes more than a paragraph to Mormonism in the entire book, which tells you where real historians might rank the significance of Joseph Smith's delusions on the overall flow of world history.
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain "The LDS church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo