The LDS members and the Kingdom of God

[_gdemetz]

It wasn't only the Spirit. I learned a lot more about the gospel over the years.

[_Drifting]

It wasn't only the Spirit. I learned a lot more about the gospel over the years.

So you learnt the truth by study rather than the Holy Ghost?

[_gdemetz]

It was really a combination of both.

[_Drifting]

It was really a combination of both.

So...you would learn something and the Holy Ghost would tell you that you were correct?

[_gdemetz]

Yea.

[_Drifting]

Yea.

Let me tell you a true story.

I was trying to find out for myself if the Church was true.
read the Book of Mormon (twice) and complied fully with the requirements of Moroni's promise.
Nothing, zip, zilch. I had the right intent in my heart and everything. But no, nothing.

The moment I pondered that the Church was not true my spirit leapt and I experienced a strong and powerful burning confirmation that the Church was not true. Everything I have subsequently studied has further confirmed this, but only afterwards. At the point I searched and prayed for answers I had not uncovered the controversies etc, I only had Church given information and so my thoughts were not clouded in any way by apostate views and opinions.

The Holy Ghost actually told me the Church was false.

[_gdemetz]

Why don't I believe you?

[_Drifting]

Why don't I believe you?

Because it doesn't fit with what you already want to believe.

I think the term is Confirmation Bias.

[_gdemetz]

It's more than that. It's the fact that so many in the church have had that, and I am a covert who has attended many other churches over the years, and I haven't seen the same effect.

[_Drifting]

It's more than that. It's the fact that so many in the church have had that, and I am a covert who has attended many other churches over the years, and I haven't seen the same effect.

No, you only hope it's more than that and you only hope the experience within different Church's is different to yours. It isn't though.

Lots of members claim a Holy Ghost type experience when finding their car keys or a few short weeks before they go inactive.