Themis wrote:LittleNipper wrote:Solomon Spalding's work entitled “Manuscript Found”.
I know what he means, but there is disagreement that the manuscript we have is Manuscript found.
Personally, I feel it was destroyed for obvious reasons.
Themis wrote:LittleNipper wrote:Solomon Spalding's work entitled “Manuscript Found”.
I know what he means, but there is disagreement that the manuscript we have is Manuscript found.
gdemetz wrote:Nipper, that is just adding more tabloid type stuff here and there is plenty already on this thread, and by the way, Romney only has one wife! Do you have a problem with the Biblical prophets having more than one wife?
LittleNipper wrote:I do not see anything in the Bible which states a prophet needs to have more than one wife. In fact, I see nothing in the Bible that declairs that any man needs or should have more than one wife. The reality is there is every indication the Book of Mormon was a Bible based story written as a novel by a religious person with Bible knowledge (a common thing in America at the end of the 18th and beginning of the 19th century). There is no real reason the gold plates should have been taken up to heaven, since they were supposed to have been buried for a thousand years. The plates would have validated the Book of Mormon. The dead sea scrolls haven't been taken to heaven. I do not wish to give people a hard time; however, one must be willing to view the facts and not make excuses for not accepting the Bible as errorless, while upholding a series of books and doctrinal statements that are shrouded in mystery and intrigue as Fully inspired GOSPEL truth.
Quasimodo wrote:LittleNipper wrote:I do not see anything in the Bible which states a prophet needs to have more than one wife. In fact, I see nothing in the Bible that declairs that any man needs or should have more than one wife. The reality is there is every indication the Book of Mormon was a Bible based story written as a novel by a religious person with Bible knowledge (a common thing in America at the end of the 18th and beginning of the 19th century). There is no real reason the gold plates should have been taken up to heaven, since they were supposed to have been buried for a thousand years. The plates would have validated the Book of Mormon. The dead sea scrolls haven't been taken to heaven. I do not wish to give people a hard time; however, one must be willing to view the facts and not make excuses for not accepting the Bible as errorless, while upholding a series of books and doctrinal statements that are shrouded in mystery and intrigue as Fully inspired GOSPEL truth.
Nice post, Nipper! I agree with all that. Now, use that same analytic on the Bible. It doesn't stand up any better. It's just older.
LittleNipper wrote:
There is historic data and the Dead Sea Scrolls. The people and places are real and the Bible has been used as a scorce of historic research...
Themis wrote:LittleNipper wrote:
There is historic data and the Dead Sea Scrolls. The people and places are real and the Bible has been used as a scorce of historic research...
Some things can be shown to have existed from the Bible. Certain people and places. This can also be seen in other holy texts from the past.
LittleNipper wrote:There is historic data and the Dead Sea Scrolls. The people and places are real and the Bible has been used as a scorce of historic research...
Drifting wrote:Themis wrote:
Some things can be shown to have existed from the Bible. Certain people and places. This can also be seen in other holy texts from the past.
So The Da Vinci Code is on an equal footing with The Bible...who knew...
Quasimodo wrote:LittleNipper wrote:There is historic data and the Dead Sea Scrolls. The people and places are real and the Bible has been used as a scorce of historic research...
There is remarkably very little historic (archaeological) data. If you do have some data from scholarly sources I would love to see them. Please don't post links to "flaky" web pages. I've seen most of them before and they don't really hold up very well.
The Dead Sea Scrolls (written in the first century AD) are copies of earlier manuscripts written several hundred years earlier. They only show that the "Bible" stories are old. Not that they are true. One could say the same for Native American creation stories.