My Column in the "Mormon Times"

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Bumping for Daniel.
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Yet another outrage against decency and good sense:

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7001 ... death.html
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Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Nice illustration of the maturity of far too many of the responses here (including, typically, your own).

You pretty much make my point: This is, on the whole, not a venue for serious -- and certainly not for respectful -- conversation.

Anyway, I am, as I said I would be, on the road, away from libraries. (I'm in the mountains right now, as a matter of fact.)

I explained that earlier. I said that this would be the case, and that I simply would not be able to respond for a few weeks, at least.

Serious research questions require library time. I haven't had any -- literally none -- for about a month. They can't be answered off the top of one's head, or (your style) with idiotic taunts.

I made that clear, and said that I would respond when I could. You and others replied with juvenile mockery, and have continued to do so.

This didn't persuade me not to engage the challenges, which I will still do (on my schedule), but it did convince me not to answer them here.

Why should I continue to spend significant time and effort in a place like this, for an audience like you?

I wish you joy of the malignant and ideologically one-sided little playpen that you, personally, have done so very much to create.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:Nice illustration of the maturity of far too many of the responses here (including, typically, your own).

You pretty much make my point: This is, on the whole, not a venue for serious -- and certainly not for respectful -- conversation.

Anyway, I am, as I said I would be, on the road, away from libraries. (I'm in the mountains right now, as a matter of fact.)

I explained that earlier. I said that this would be the case, and that I simply would not be able to respond for a few weeks, at least.

Serious research questions require library time. I haven't had any -- literally none -- for about a month. They can't be answered off the top of one's head, or (your style) with idiotic taunts.

I made that clear, and said that I would respond when I could. You and others replied with juvenile mockery, and have continued to do so.

This didn't persuade me not to engage the challenges, which I will still do (on my schedule), but it did convince me not to answer them here.

Why should I continue to spend significant time and effort in a place like this, for an audience like you?

I wish you joy of the malignant and ideologically one-sided little playpen that you, personally, have done so very much to create.


Someone who makes jokes about buffalo chips really doesn't have room to talk when it comes to complaining about maturity.

I'm reading a lot of excuses in your post, but not much in the way of answers. Ah well, once you've got your library time I'm sure you'll see fit to answer some direct questions on an internet forum. After all, that's been your modus operandi from the start, yes? Not answering questions online about your religion without a three week waiting period and several trips to the library?

I'm sure you'll answer those difficult questions with intellectually honest, good faith answers. Not lazy references to the apologetic work of others or intellectually dishonest misdirection. :)
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Read your “outrage against decency”

I only find one thing amiss, the title:

"Where Can I turn for peace,
Where is my solace when other sources cease to make me whole.
When with a wounded heart, anger, or malice,
I draw myself apart, searching my soul
Where, when my aching grows,
Where when I languish,
Where, in my need to know, where can I run?
Where is the quiet hand to calm my anguish?
Who, who can understand
He, only One.
He answers privately,
Reaches my reaching,
In my Gethsemane, Savior and Friend
Gentle the peace he finds for my beseeching.
Constant he is and kind
Love without end."

“Spirituality matters in death”
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I don't choose the titles.
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Buffalo wrote:
Daniel Peterson wrote:Nice illustration of the maturity of far too many of the responses here (including, typically, your own).

You pretty much make my point: This is, on the whole, not a venue for serious -- and certainly not for respectful -- conversation.

Anyway, I am, as I said I would be, on the road, away from libraries. (I'm in the mountains right now, as a matter of fact.)

I explained that earlier. I said that this would be the case, and that I simply would not be able to respond for a few weeks, at least.

Serious research questions require library time. I haven't had any -- literally none -- for about a month. They can't be answered off the top of one's head, or (your style) with idiotic taunts.

I made that clear, and said that I would respond when I could. You and others replied with juvenile mockery, and have continued to do so.

This didn't persuade me not to engage the challenges, which I will still do (on my schedule), but it did convince me not to answer them here.

Why should I continue to spend significant time and effort in a place like this, for an audience like you?

I wish you joy of the malignant and ideologically one-sided little playpen that you, personally, have done so very much to create.


Someone who makes jokes about buffalo chips really doesn't have room to talk when it comes to complaining about maturity.

I'm reading a lot of excuses in your post, but not much in the way of answers. Ah well, once you've got your library time I'm sure you'll see fit to answer some direct questions on an internet forum. After all, that's been your modus operandi from the start, yes? Not answering questions online about your religion without a three week waiting period and several trips to the library?

I'm sure you'll answer those difficult questions with intellectually honest, good faith answers. Not lazy references to the apologetic work of others or intellectually dishonest misdirection. :)


Actually, you know what, Dr. P? I'm being unfair. Sincerely. I'm being ornery for the sake of being ornery. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt - no more comments until after your response.

Seriously. My apologies. Sometimes I go too far.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Thanks. I appreciate it.

I do intend to look at the two complexes of issues raised by, respectively, Stakhanovite and George Miller. If I think there's something in them that merits response (and, at least in the latter case, I'm confident that there is, and I believe that the first likely raises worthwhile questions as well), I will respond. Somewhere, at some point.
Almost certainly not here, however. (With regard to Stakhanovite, I may, simply, configure a manuscript that I'm still working on in order to meet his objections.)
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Almost certainly not here, however.


I would hope you would provide something here, even if a link, since that is where it started, and at least somewhere that people like GM can respond as well.
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