Book of Mormon a Stolen Novel?

[_Quasimodo]

Well, we could start with the Hittites. Scholars once believed that the Bible was in error concerning this ancient people. However, it was found that they were real and the scholars were wrong.

I'm at a loss to understand how the existence of the Hittites proves the validity of the Bible's teachings.

The Hittites did exist. So did the Babylonians and earlier the Sumerians, also the Philistines and Egyptians.

How does this help your cause? It only proves that the Bible made some historic comments about the people that existed at the time some of the Bible stories were written. How does any of this support the Bible's religious teachings?

[_Drifting]

So The Da Vinci Code is on an equal footing with The Bible...who knew...

There is no historic data proving Jesus had married or had children. The Da Vinci Code is a novel.[/quote]

I think you'll find the Da Vinci Code contains real places and real people in the same way the Bible does. Sure it's written in a different style but I'm sure if you study it and pray about it you will come to see it has been inspired by God with messages for our day.

[_LittleNipper]

So The Da Vinci Code is on an equal footing with The Bible...who knew... I think you'll find the Da Vinci Code contains real places and real people in the same way the Bible does. Sure it's written in a different style but I'm sure if you study it and pray about it you will come to see it has been inspired by God with messages for our day.

There is no historic data proving Jesus had married or had children. The Da Vinci Code is a novel.

The Da Vinci Code does not claim to be the Word of God. It contain no prophetic message. It as not stood the test of time. It contradicts the Bible which does claim to be that word.

[_gdemetz]

If you guys would spend more time studying the Bible, you would possibly realize that the Bible prophesies of a restitution of all things, including lost scripture, and it also prophesies of a restitution of prophets, and revelations which are recorded as new scripture! It also prophesies of the Book of Mormon. If all these things are not restored, then the Bible would be false since it prophesies of a restitution of ALL THINGS!!!

[_Drifting]

The Da Vinci Code does not claim to be the Word of God. It contain no prophetic message. It as not stood the test of time. It contradicts the Bible which does claim to be that word.

The Bible is a collection of differing writings whose authors themselves say they are inspired by God. (unless God has told you himself, in which case how did He specifically communicate that to you?)
The Bible is not internally consistent - for instance on the one hand saying thou shalt not kill and other justifying killing.
The God written about in The Bible is inconsistent and nasty.
The Bible doesn't claim that Jesus was single.
You can't be sure it has been translated correctly.
It is open to different, sometimes opposit interpretations depending on the readers already held viewpoint.
It's out of date.

[_LittleNipper]

The Da Vinci Code does not claim to be the Word of God. It contain no prophetic message. It as not stood the test of time. It contradicts the Bible which does claim to be that word.

The Bible is a collection of differing writings whose authors themselves say they are inspired by God. (unless God has told you himself, in which case how did He specifically communicate that to you?)
The Bible is not internally consistent - for instance on the one hand saying thou shalt not kill and other justifying killing.
The God written about in The Bible is inconsistent and nasty.
The Bible doesn't claim that Jesus was single.
You can't be sure it has been translated correctly.
It is open to different, sometimes opposit interpretations depending on the readers already held viewpoint.
It's out of date.

Murder is not the same as execution. Killing that takes place during warfare is not murder. Show me where the God of the Bible is inconsistant and nasty. Marriage is mentioned in the Bible --- Jesus attended one. It is entirely unlikely that if Jesus got married that it would not receive some mention. And Jesus was rather young when he died on the cross. He roamed ther countryside. He came as a sacrafice and not to start an Aryan race. There exists very early transcripts. One is able to research and compare. Salvation is never out of date and neither is doing what is right.

[_gdemetz]

Nipper, I agree with your post with the exception of one thing, the marriage of Jesus. He would never have been accepted as a "rabbi" if he were not married. Also, the women who were constantly with Him during His travels would definitely have been a no no. In addition to this, He would have not been fulfilling all of the commandments if He were not married. Also, wives were something that were not mentioned often in the scriptures. In addition to this, the parents of the groom were the ones responsible for refreshments as hosts for a wedding, so apparently someone in His home was getting married when He performed the miracle of water to wine, and I believe it was Him! He was a man in all ways and experienced all things which we do, and this was necessary for Him to be able to advise and succor us!

[_ludwigm]

Murder is not the same as execution.

Not at all. Some people (called congress, parlament, royalty) gives a certificate one or more other people to kill and paid for.
In some places around the world - Utah is on the roll, as far as I know - people volunteer to this noble task.
For example, I wouldn't sit to the same table with one of them, paid or not.

Killing that takes place during warfare is not murder.

Same case.
Some people (called congress, parlament, royalty) gives a certificate a lot of other people to kill. Additionally, they will be taught to work effectively.
A little after the replacement of the highest leaders, the certificate is stamped as ineffectual, the heroes all of a sudden become war criminals.
(by the way I was a regular officer for 39 years, used to teach 6-800 officers and sergeants...)

Show me where the God of the Bible is inconsistant and nasty.

All of them will be listed at that thread.

[_Drifting]

Murder is not the same as execution. Killing that takes place during warfare is not murder. Show me where the God of the Bible is inconsistant and nasty.

Noah's Flood.
God killed every living thing on the planet with the exception of eight or so people. That means He killed every man, woman, child and infant who wasn't on that boat. That seems to me to be inconsistent with a loving God.

[_LittleNipper]

Murder is not the same as execution. Killing that takes place during warfare is not murder. Show me where the God of the Bible is inconsistant and nasty.

Noah's Flood.
God killed every living thing on the planet with the exception of eight or so people. That means He killed every man, woman, child and infant who wasn't on that boat. That seems to me to be inconsistent with a loving God.

The wages of sin is death. Noah's world was almost entirely unrighteous. As with Sodom (where the number of righteous "men" found was just one) the number of righteous men had dwindled. What a loving Creator did was show mercy. The reality is that the entire human race would have become godless and Christ/Love would not have come. The righteous who had died believing a Redeemer was coming would have been eternally separated from God. You do not understand this, I assume.