As I recall, he was on the The Twelve at the time (back when they still spoke at Stake Conferences), but I do not recall which one.
Thanks, anyway, DrW!
In as much as conspiracy theories and anti-Semitism are political pornography, it's seems that quite a few General Authorities have a serious porn problem.
Mortal Man had some plangent and interesting observations about this article over at the ironically named Mormon Dialogue board. He was warned by the mods for his comments and Pahoran launched a thread attacking him in response.
Hi, Dr. Scratch. I checked over there but wasn't able to find the juicy bits. Could you post a link? Thanks!
This message against anti-semitism for us Mormons is an important one and I thank Dr. Peterson for writing about it. As has been mentioned by Corpsegrinder, in Church there has been some degree of anti-semitism in the past and addressing this topic is a wonderful way of helping insure it won't happen again.
Question: I have heard people claim that there were some passages in the Book of Mormon that could be interpreted as being anti-semitic. Is this true?
2 Nephi 10:3 Wherefore, as I said unto you, it must needs be expedient that Christ--for in the last night the angel spake unto me that this should be his name--should come among the Jews, among those who are the more wicked part of the world; and they shall crucify him--for thus it behooveth our God, and there is none other nation on earth that would crucify their God.
moksha wrote:.... Question: I have heard people claim that there were some passages in the Book of Mormon that could be interpreted as being anti-semitic. Is this true?
Second Nephi, 10:3.
“Wherefore, as I said unto you, it must needs be expedient that Christ—for in the last night the angel spake unto me that this should be his name—should come among the Jews, among those who are the more wicked part of the world; and they shall crucify him—for thus it behooveth our God, and there is none other nation on earth that would crucify their God.”
DrW wrote:Is there anything in the passages from the Book of Mormon Dr. Peterson quoted in his article that would convince you that these passages were originally written ca 600 BCE rather than in the first part of the 19th century?
If not, why does the Book of Mormon intrigue you?
Not particularly, but my position has been (and still is), that the Book of Mormon doesn't need to be strictly historical to be inspired.
2 Nephi 10:3 Wherefore, as I said unto you, it must needs be expedient that Christ--for in the last night the angel spake unto me that this should be his name--should come among the Jews, among those who are the more wicked part of the world; and they shall crucify him--for thus it behooveth our God, and there is none other nation on earth that would crucify their God.
Today Jesus would not last long as a Mormon. He would seek always to do the will of the Father and doing always those things that please Him. He could not therefore FOLLOW the Prophet. He would be hated and cast out, despised for not couching all his words in GA quotes. Imagine how they would drag him up to the brink of the hill to cast him down headlong if he gave out that he was someone in fulfillment of scripture! Mormons would scarce be restrained from gnashing upon him with their teeth if he were to call the presidents of the priesthood whited walls and open sepulchers, and drove out all the uncircumcised of heart from of the temple who got in for money and sustaining votes.
So now we can wonder in the long view which generation is the most wicked after all. The Ancient Jews were only destroyed and scattered. The LDS will be consumed by the just recompense of the devouring vengeance of fire. Hmm? I guess the judgment was fixed from before the foundation of the earth as to who deserves what.
DrW wrote:Is there anything in the passages from the Book of Mormon Dr. Peterson quoted in his article that would convince you that these passages were originally written ca 600 BCE rather than in the first part of the 19th century?
If not, why does the Book of Mormon intrigue you?
Not particularly, but my position has been (and still is), that the Book of Mormon doesn't need to be strictly historical to be inspired.
Interesting. So you are saying that the Book of Mormon can be inspired (by the supernatural, I presume) even though you do not believe that its provenance is as claimed by its inspired author.
Would any source of inspiration that misrepresented itself in this way be worth your time to consider or investigate?
David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
DrW wrote:Interesting. So you are saying that the Book of Mormon can be inspired (by the supernatural, I presume) even though you do not believe that its provenance is as claimed by its inspired author.
Here is what "the author" claimed:
I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book.