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1 Chronicles 5:1-26 Though Reuben was Israel’s firstborn, after he slept with his father’s concubine, a defiling act, his rights as the firstborn were passed on to the sons of Joseph son of Israel. He lost his “firstborn” place in the family tree. And even though Judah became the strongest of his brothers and King David eventually came from that family, the firstborn rights stayed with Joseph.

The sons of Reuben, firstborn of Israel: Hanoch, Pallu, Hezron, and Carmi. The descendants of Joel: Shemaiah his son, Gog his son, Shimei his son, Micah his son, Reaiah his son, Baal his son, and Beerah his son, whom Tiglath-Pileser king of Assyria took into exile. Beerah was the prince of the Reubenites.

Beerah’s brothers are listed in the family tree by families: first Jeiel, followed by Zechariah: then Bela son of Azaz, the son of Shema, the son of Joel. Joel lived in the area from Aroer to Nebo and Baal Meon. His family occupied the land up to the edge of the desert that goes all the way to the Euphrates River, since their growing herds of livestock spilled out of Gilead. During Saul’s reign they fought and defeated the Hagrites; they then took over their tents and lived in them on the eastern frontier of Gilead.

The family of Gad were their neighbors in Bashan, as far as Salecah: Joel was the chief, Shapham the second-in-command, and then Janai, the judge in Bashan.

Their brothers, by families, were Michael, Meshullam, Sheba, Jorai, Jacan, Zia, and Eber—7 in all. These were the sons of Abihail son of Huri, the son of Jaroah, the son of Gilead, the son of Michael, the son of Jeshishai, the son of Jahdo, the son of Buz. Ahi son of Abdiel, the son of Guni, was head of their family.

The family of Gad lived in Gilead and Bashan, including the outlying villages and extending as far as the pastures of Sharon. They were all written into the official family tree during the reigns of Jotham king of Judah and Jeroboam king of Israel.

The families of Reuben, Gad, and the half-tribe of Manasseh had 44,760 men trained for war—physically fit and skilled in handling weapons. They fought against the Hagrites, Jetur, Naphish, and Nodab. God helped them as they fought. God handed the Hagrites and all their allies over, because they cried out to him during the battle. God answered their prayers because they trusted him. They plundered the Hagrite herds and flocks: 50,000 camels, 250,000 sheep, and 2,000 donkeys. They also captured 100,000 people. Many were killed, because the battle was God’s. They lived in that country until the exile.

The half-tribe of Manasseh had a large population. They occupied the land from Bashan to Baal Hermon, that is, to Senir (Mount Hermon). The heads of their families were Epher, Ishi, Eliel, Azriel, Jeremiah, Hodaviah, and Jahdiel—brave warriors, famous, and heads of their families. But they were not faithful to the God of their ancestors. They took accepted the gods of the peoples of the land whom God had gotten rid of before they arrived. God stirred up the ambitions of Pul king of Assyria (Tiglath-Pileser king of Assyria) to take the families of Reuben, Gad, and the half-tribe of Manasseh into exile. He deported them to Halah, Habor, Hara, and the river of Gozan ----- where they remained.


Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
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Please tell me: what uplifting can be found in this type of parroting strange names (which are typically mispronounced in English, by the way)
Especially "TH"s, pronounced outside of English speaking world as "T" and "H" after each, and not as stupid lisping "θ".

This is a historic, God inspired, legitimate record of the generations which are heading towards the coming birth of the Savior.

[_LittleNipper]

1 Chronicles 6:1-81 These are the names of the sons of Levi: Gershom, Kohath, Merari.
Kohath’s sons were: Amram, Izhar, Hebron, Uzziel.
Amram’s descendants included: Aaron, Moses, Miriam.

Aaron’s sons were: Nadab, Abihu, Eleazar, Ithamar. The oldest sons of the successive generations of Aaron were as follows:
Eleazar, the father of
Phinehas, the father of
Abishua, the father of
Bukki, the father of
Uzzi, the father of
Zerahiah, the father of
Meraioth, the father of
Amariah, the father of
Ahitub, the father of
Zadok, the father of
Ahimaaz, the father of
Azariah, the father of
Johanan, the father of
Azariah (the High Priest in Solomon’s Temple at Jerusalem), the father of
Amariah, the father of
Ahitub, the father of
Zadok, the father of
Shallum, the father of
Hilkiah, the father of
Azariah, the father of
Seraiah, the father of
Jehozadak (went into exile when the Lord sent the people of Judah and Jerusalem into captivity under Nebuchadnezzar).

As previously stated,the sons of Levi were: Gershom, Kohath, Merari.

The sons of Gershom were: Libni, Shimei.

The sons of Kohath were: Amram, Izhar, Hebron, Uzziel.

The sons of Merari were: Mahli, Mushi.

The subclans of the Levites were:

Gershom clan: Libni, Jahath, Zimmah, Joah, Iddo, Zerah, Jeatherai.

Kohath clan: Amminadab, Korah, Assir, Elkanah, Ebiasaph, Assir, Tahath, Uriel, Uzziah, Shaul.

The subclan of Elkanah was further divided into the families of his sons: Amasai, Ahimoth, Elkanah, Zophai, Nahath, Eliab, Jeroham, Elkanah.
The families of the subclan of Samuel were headed by Samuel’s sons: Joel, the oldest; Abijah, the second.
The subclans of the clan of Merari were headed by his sons: Mahli, Libni, Shimei, Uzzah, Shimea, Haggiah, Asaiah.

King David appointed song leaders and choirs to praise God in the Tabernacle after he had placed the Ark in it. When Solomon built the Temple at Jerusalem, the choirs continued their work.
These are the names and ancestries of choir leaders: Heman the Cantor was from the clan of Kohath; his genealogy was traced back through: Joel, Samuel, Elkanah III, Jeroham, Eliel, Toah, Zuph, Elkanah II, Mahath, Amasai, Elkanah I, Joel, Azariah, Zephaniah, Tahath, Assir, Ebiasaph, Korah, Izhar, Kohath, Levi, Israel.

Heman’s assistant was his colleague Asaph, whose genealogy was traced back through: Berechiah, Shimea, Michael, Baaseiah, Malchijah, Ethni, Zerah, Adaiah, Ethan, Zimmah, Shimei, Jahath, Gershom, Levi.

Heman’s second assistant was Ethan, a representative from the clan of Merari, who stood on his left. Merari’s ancestry was traced back through: Kishi, Abdi, Malluch, Hashabiah, Amaziah, Hilkiah, Amzi, Bani, Shemer, Mahli, Mushi, Merari, Levi.

Their relatives—all the other Levites—were appointed to various other tasks in the Tabernacle. But only Aaron and his descendants were the priests. Their duties included sacrificing burnt offerings and incense, handling all the tasks relating to the inner sanctuary—the Holy of Holies—and the tasks relating to the annual Day of Atonement for Israel. They saw to it that all the details commanded by Moses the servant of God were strictly followed.

The descendants of Aaron were: Eleazar, Phinehas, Abishua, Bukki, Uzzi, Zerahiah, Meraioth, Amariah, Ahitub, Zadok, Ahimaaz.

The record of the cities and land assigned by lot to the descendants of Aaron, all of whom were members of the Kohath clan: Hebron and its surrounding pasturelands in Judah (although the fields and suburbs were given to Caleb the son of Jephunneh), and the following Cities of Refuge with their surrounding pasturelands: Libnah, Jattir, Eshtemoa, Hilen, Debir, Ashan, Beth-shemesh.
13 other cities with surrounding pastures—including Geba, Alemeth, and Anathoth—were given to the priests by the tribe of Benjamin. Lots were then drawn to assign land to the remaining descendants of Kohath, and they received 10 cities in the territory of the half-tribe of Manasseh.

The subclans of the Gershom clan received by lot 13 cities in the Bashan area from the tribes of Issachar, Asher, Naphtali, and Manasseh.
The subclans of Merari received by lot twelve cities from the tribes of Reuben, Gad, and Zebulun.
Cities and pasturelands were also assigned by lot to the Levites (and then renamed) from the tribes of Judah, Simeon, and Benjamin.

The tribe of Ephraim gave these Cities of Refuge with the surrounding pasturelands to the subclans of Kohath: Shechem in Mount Ephraim, Gezer, Jokmeam, Beth-horon, Aijalon, Gath-rimmon.
The following Cities of Refuge and their pasturelands were given to the subclans of the Kohathites by the half-tribe of Manasseh: Aner, Bileam.
Cities of Refuge and pastureland given to the clan of Gershom by the half-tribe of Manasseh were: Golan, in Bashan; Ashtaroth.
The tribe of Issachar gave them Kedesh, Daberath, 73 Ramoth, and Anem, and the surrounding pastureland of each.
The tribe of Asher gave them Abdon, Mashal, Hukok, and Rehob, with their pasturelands.
The tribe of Naphtali gave them Kedesh in Galilee, Hammon, and Kiriathaim with pasturelands.
The tribe of Zebulun gave Rimmono and Tabor to the Merari clan as Cities of Refuge.
Across the Jordan River, opposite Jericho, the tribe of Reuben gave them Bezer (a desert town), Jahzah, Kedemoth, and Mephaath, with their pasturelands.

The tribe of Gad gave them Ramoth in Gilead, Mahanaim, Heshbon, and Jazer, each with their surrounding pasturelands.


Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 Sons of Levi: Gershon, Kohath, and Merari.

2 And the sons of Kohath; Amram, Izhar, and Hebron, and Uzziel.

3 And sons of Amram: Aaron, and Moses, and Miriam. And sons of Aaron: Nadab, and Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar.

4 Eleazar begat Phinehas, Phinehas begat Abishua,

5 and Abishua begat Bukki, and Bukki begat Uzzi,

6 and Uzzi begat Zerahiah, and Zerahiah begat Meraioth,

7 Meraioth begat Amariah, and Amariah begat Ahitub,

8 and Ahitub begat Zadok, and Zadok begat Ahimaaz,

9 and Ahimaaz begat Azariah, and Azariah begat Johanan,

10 and Johanan begat Azariah, him who acted as priest in the house that Solomon built in Jerusalem.

11 And Azariah begetteth Amariah, and Amariah begat Ahitub,

12 and Ahitub begat Zadok, and Zadok begat Shallum,

13 and Shallum begat Hilkiah, and Hilkiah begat Azariah,

14 and Azariah begat Seraiah, and Seraiah begat Jehozadak;

15 and Jehozadak hath gone in Jehovah's removing Judah and Jerusalem by the hand of Nebuchadnezzar.

16 Sons of Levi: Gershom, Kohath, and Merari.

17 And these [are] names of sons of Gershom: Libni and Shimei.

18 And sons of Kohath: Amram, and Izhar, and Hebron, and Uzziel.

19 Sons of Merari; Mahli and Mushi. And these [are] families of the Levite according to their fathers;

20 of Gershom: Libni his son, Jahath his son, Zimmah his son,

21 Joah his son, Iddo his son, Zerah his son, Jeaterai his son.

22 Sons of Kohath: Amminadab his son, Korah his son, Assir his son,

23 Elkanah his son, and Ebiasaph his son, and Assir his son,

24 Tahath his son, Uriel his son, Uzziah his son, and Shaul his son.

25 And sons of Elkanah; Amasai and Ahimoth.

26 Elkanah; sons of Elkanah: Zophai his son, and Nahath his son,

27 Eliab his son, Jeroham his son, Elkanah his son.

28 And sons of Samuel: the first-born Vashni, and the second Abijah.

29 Sons of Merari: Mahli, Libni his son, Shimei his son, Uzzah his son,

30 Shimea his son, Haggiah his son, Asaiah his son.

31 And these [are] they whom David stationed over the parts of the song of the house of Jehovah, from the resting of the ark,

32 and they are ministering before the tabernacle of the tent of meeting, in song, till the building by Solomon of the house of Jehovah in Jerusalem; and they stand according to their ordinance over their service.

33 And these [are] those standing, and their sons: of the sons of the Kohathite: Heman the singer, son of Joel, son of Shemuel,

34 son of Elkanah, son of Jeroham, son of Eliel, son of Toah,

35 son of Zuph, son of Elkanah, son of Mahath, son of Amasai,

36 son of Elkanah, son of Joel, son of Azariah, son of Zephaniah,

37 son of Tahath, son of Assir, son of Ebiasaph, son of Korah,

38 son of Izhar, son of Kohath, son of Levi, son of Israel.

39 And his brother Asaph, who is standing on his right -- Asaph, son of Berachiah, son of Shimea,

40 son of Michael, son of Baaseiah, son of Malchiah,

41 son of Ethni, son of Zerah, son of Adaiah,

42 son of Ethan, son of Zimmah, son of Shimei,

43 son of Jahath, son of Gershom, son of Levi.

44 And sons of Merari, their brethren, [are] on the left. Ethan son of Kishi, son of Abdi, son of Malluch,

45 son of Hashabiah, son of Amaziah, son of Hilkiah,

46 son of Amzi, son of Bani, son of Shamer,

47 son of Mahli, son of Mushi, son of Merari, son of Levi.

48 And their brethren the Levites are put to all the service of the tabernacle of the house of God.

49 And Aaron and his sons are making perfume on the altar of the burnt-offering, and on the altar of the perfume, for all the work of the holy of holies, and to make atonement for Israel, according to all that Moses servant of God commanded.

50 And these [are] sons of Aaron: Eleazar his son, Phinehas his son, Abishua his son,

51 Bukki his son, Uzzi his son, Zerahiah his son,

52 Meraioth his son, Amariah his son, Ahitub his son,

53 Zadok his son, Ahimaaz his son.

54 And these [are] their dwellings, throughout their towers, in their borders, of the sons of Aaron, of the family of the Kohathite, for theirs was the lot;

55 and they give to them Hebron in the land of Judah and its suburbs round about it;

56 and the field of the city and its villages they gave to Caleb son of Jephunneh.

57 And to the sons of Aaron they gave the cities of refuge: Hebron, and Libnah and its suburbs, and Jattir, and Eshtemoa and its suburbs,

58 and Hilen and its suburbs, Debir and its suburbs,

59 and Ashan and its suburbs, and Beth-Shemesh and its suburbs.

60 And from the tribe of Benjamin, Geba and its suburbs, and Allemeth and its suburbs, and Anathoth and its suburbs. All their cities [are] thirteen cities, for their families.

61 And to the sons of Kohath, those left of the family of the tribe, from the half of the tribe, the half of Manasseh, by lot, [are] ten cities.

62 And to the sons of Gershom, for their families, from the tribe of Issachar, and from the tribe of Asher, and from the tribe of Naphtali, and from the tribe of Manasseh in Bashan, thirteen cities.

63 To the sons of Merari, for their families, from the tribe of Reuben, and from the tribe of Gad, and from the tribe of Zebulun, by lot, twelve cities.

64 And the sons of Israel give to the Levites the cities and their suburbs.

65 And they give by lot from the tribe of the sons of Judah, and from the tribe of the sons of Simeon, and from the tribe of the sons of Benjamin, these cities which they call by name;

66 and some of the families of the sons of Kohath have cities of their border from the tribe of Ephraim;

67 and they give to them the cities of refuge, Shechem and its suburbs in the hill-country of Ephraim, and Gezer and its suburbs,

68 and Jokmeam and its suburbs, and Beth-Horan and its suburbs,

69 and Aijalon and its suburbs, and Gath-Rimmon and its suburbs;

70 and from the half tribe of Manasseh, Aner and its suburbs, and Bileam and its suburbs, for the family of the sons of Kohath who are left.

71 To the sons of Gershom from the family of the half of the tribe of Manasseh [are] Golan in Bashan and its suburbs, and Ashtaroth and its suburbs;

72 and from the tribe of Issachar; Kedesh and its suburbs, Daberath and its suburbs,

73 and Ramoth and its suburbs, and Anem and its suburbs;

74 and from the tribe of Asher; Mashal and its suburbs, and Abdon and its suburbs,

75 and Hukok and its suburbs, and Rehob and its suburbs;

76 and from the tribe of Naphtali: Kedesh in Galilee and its suburbs, and Hammon and its suburbs, and Kirjathaim and its suburbs.

77 To the sons of Merari who are left, from the tribe of Zebulun, [are] Rimmon and its suburbs, Tabor and its suburbs;

78 and from beyond the Jordan by Jericho, at the east of the Jordan, from the tribe of Reuben, Bezer in the wilderness and its suburbs, and Jahzah and its suburbs,

79 and Kedemoth and its suburbs, and Mephaath and its suburbs;

80 and from the tribe of Gad: Ramoth in Gilead and its suburbs, and Mahanaim and its suburbs,

81 and Heshbon and its suburbs, and Jazer and its suburbs.

[_LittleNipper]

1 Chronicles 7:1-40 The 4 sons of Issachar were Tola, Puah, Jashub, and Shimron. The sons of Tola were Uzzi, Rephaiah, Jeriel, Jahmai, Ibsam, and Samuel—heros of their families. During David’s reign, the Tola family counted 22,600 warriors in their lineage. The son of Uzzi was Izrahiah; the sons 5 of Izrahiah were Michael, Obadiah, Joel, and Isshiah (also heroic) They counted 36,000 warriors in their lineage because they had more wives and sons than their brothers. The extended families of Issachar accounted for 87,000 warriors—all of them listed in the family tree.

Benjamin had three sons: Bela, Beker, and Jediael. Bela had 5: Ezbon, Uzzi, Uzziel, Jerimoth, and Iri, all of them heroic. They counted 22,034 names in their family tree. Beker’s sons were Zemirah, Joash, Eliezer, Elioenai, Omri, Jeremoth, Abijah, Anathoth, and Alemeth. Through these chiefs their family tree listed 20,200 warriors. Jediael’s son was Bilhan and the sons of Bilhan were Jeush, Benjamin, Ehud, Kenaanah, Zethan, Tarshish, and Ahishahar—all sons of Jediael and family chiefs; they counted 17,200 combat-ready warriors. Shuppim and Huppim were the sons of Ir; Hushim were from the family of Aher.

The sons of Naphtali were Jahziel, Guni, Jezer, and Shallum; they are listed under the maternal line of Bilhah, their grandfather’s concubine.

Manasseh’s sons, born of his Aramean concubine, were Asriel and Makir the father of Gilead. Makir got his wife from the Huppites and Shuppites. His sister’s name was Maacah. Another son, Zelophehad, had only daughters. Makir’s wife Maacah bore a son whom she named Peresh; his brother’s name was Sheresh and his sons were Ulam and Rakem. Ulam’s son was Bedan. This accounts for the sons of Gilead son of Makir, the son of Manasseh. His sister Hammoleketh gave birth to Ishdod, Abiezer, and Mahlah. The sons of Shemida were Ahian, Shechem, Likhi, and Aniam.

The sons of Ephraim were Shuthelah, Bered his son, Tahath his son, Eleadah his son, Tahath his son, Zabad his son, Shuthelah his son, and Ezer and Elead became cattle-rustlers and died on one of their raids, being killed by Gath natives. Their father Ephraim grieved a long time and his family gathered to give him comfort. Then he slept with his wife again. She conceived and produced a son. He named him Beriah (Unlucky), because of the bad luck that had come to his family. His daughter was Sheerah. She built Lower and Upper Beth Horon and Uzzen Sheerah.

Rephah was Ephraim’s son and also Resheph; Telah was his son, Tahan his son, Ladan his son, Ammihud his son, Elishama his son, Nun his son, and Joshua his son. They lived in Bethel and the neighboring country from Naaran on the east to Gezer and its villages on the west, along with Shechem and its villages, and extending as far as Ayyah and its villages. Stretched along the borders of Manasseh were Beth Shan, Taanach, Megiddo, and Dor, together with their satellite villages. The families descended from Joseph son of Israel lived in all these places.

The sons of Asher were Imnah, Ishvah, Ishvi, and Beriah; Serah was their sister. The sons of Beriah were Heber and Malkiel, who had Birzaith. Heber had Japhlet, Shomer, Hotham, and Shua their sister.

Japhlet had Pasach, Bimhal, and Ashvath. His brother Shomer had Rohgah, Hubbah, and Aram. His brother Helem had Zophah, Imna, Shelesh, and Amal. Zophah had Suah, Harnepher, Shual, Beri, Imrah, Bezer, Hod, Shamma, Shilshah, Ithran, and Beera. Jether had Jephunneh, Pispah, and Ara. Ulla had Arah, Hanniel, and Rizia. These were Asher’s sons, all of them trustworthy, excellent in character, and brave in battle—good leaders. They listed 26,000.


Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 And sons of Issachar; Tola, and Puah, Jashub, and Shimron, four.

2 And sons of Tola: Uzzi, and Rephaiah, and Jeriel, and Jahmai, and Jibsam, and Shemuel, heads of the house of their fathers, [even] of Tola, mighty of valour in their generations: their number in the days of David [is] twenty and two thousand and six hundred.

3 And sons of Uzzi: Izrahiah; and sons of Izrahiah: Michael, and Obadiah, and Joel, Ishiah, Hamishah -- all of them heads.

4 And beside them, by their generations, of the house of their fathers, [are] troops of the host of battle, thirty and six thousand, for they multiplied wives and sons;

5 and their brethren of all the families of Issachar [are] mighty of valour, eighty and seven thousand, all have their genealogy.

6 Of Benjamin: Bela, and Becher, and Jediael, three.

7 And sons of Bela: Ezbon, and Uzzi, and Uzziel, and Jerimoth, and Iri, five; heads of a house of fathers, mighty of valour, with their genealogy, twenty and two thousand, and thirty and four.

8 And sons of Becher: Zemirah, and Joash, and Eliezar, and Elioenai, and Omri, and Jerimoth, and Abijah, and Anathoth, and Alameth. All these [are] sons of Becher,

9 with their genealogy, after their generations, heads of a house of their fathers, mighty of valour, twenty thousand and two hundred.

10 And sons of Jediael: Bilhan; and sons of Bilhan: Jeush, and Benjamin, and Ehud, and Chenaanah, and Zethan, and Tarshish, and Ahishahar.

11 All these [are] sons of Jediael, even heads of the fathers, mighty in valour, seventeen thousand and two hundred going out to the host for battle.

12 And Shuppim and Huppim [are] sons of Ir; Hushim son of Aher.

13 Sons of Naphtali: Jahziel, and Guni, and Jezer, and Shallum, sons of Bilhah.

14 Sons of Manasseh: Ashriel, whom Jaladah his Aramaean concubine bare, with Machir father of Gilead.

15 And Machir took wives for Huppim and for Shuppim, and the name of the one [is] Maachah, and the name of the second Zelophehad, and Zelophehad hath daughters.

16 And Maachah wife of Machir beareth a son and calleth his name Peresh, and the name of his brother [is] Sheresh, and his sons [are] Ulam and Rakem.

17 And son of Ulam: Bedan. These [are] sons of Gilead son of Machir, son of Manasseh.

18 And his sister Hammolecheth bare Ishhod, and Abiezer, and Mahalah.

19 And the sons of Shemida are Ahian, and Shechem, and Likhi, and Aniam.

20 And sons of Ephraim: Shuthelah, and Bered his son, and Tahath his son, and Eladah his son, and Tahath his son,

21 and Zabad his son, and Shuthelah his son, and Ezer, and Elead; and slain them have men of Gath who are born in the land, because they came down to take their cattle.

22 And Ephraim their father mourneth many days, and his brethren come in to comfort him,

23 and he goeth in unto his wife, and she conceiveth and beareth a son, and he calleth his name Beriah, because in evil had been his house, --

24 and his daughter [is] Sherah, and she buildeth Beth-Horon, the lower and the upper, and Uzzen-Sherah --

25 and Rephah [is] his son, and Resheph, and Telah his son, and Tahan his son,

26 Laadan his son, Ammihud his son, Elishama his son,

27 Non his son, Jehoshua his son.

28 And their possession and their dwellings [are] Beth-El and its small towns, and to the east Naaran, and to the west Gezer and its small towns, and Shechem and its small towns, unto Gaza and its small towns;

29 and by the parts of the sons of Manasseh, Beth-Shean and its small towns, Taanach and its small towns, Megiddo and its small towns, Dor and its small towns; in these dwelt the sons of Joseph son of Israel.

30 Son of Asher: Imnah, and Ishve, and Ishvi, and Beriah, and Serah their sister.

31 And sons of Beriah: Heber, and Malchiel -- he [is] father of Birzavith.

32 And Heber begat Japhlet, and Shomer, and Hotham, and Shua their sister.

33 And sons of Japhlet: Pasach, and Bimhal, and Ashvath; these [are] sons of Japhlet.

34 and sons of Shamer: Ahi, and Rohgah, Jehubbah, and Aram.

35 And son of Helem his brother: Zophah, and Imna, and Shelesh, and Amal.

36 Sons of Zophah: Suah, and Harnepher, and Shual, and Beri, and Imrah,

37 Bezer, and Hod, and Shamma, and Shilshah, and Ithran, and Beera.

38 And sons of Jether: Jephunneh, and Pispah, and Ara.

39 And sons of Ulla: Arah, and Hanniel, and Rezia.

40 All these [are] sons of Asher, heads of the house of the fathers, chosen ones, mighty in valour, heads of the princes, with their genealogy, for the host, for battle, their number [is] twenty and six thousand men.

[_LittleNipper]

1 Chronicles 8:1-40 The sons of Benjamin in age order: Bela, Ashbel, Aharah, Nohah, Rapha.
The sons of Bela were: Addar, Gera, Abihud, Abishua, Naaman, Ahoah, Gera, Shephuphan, Huram.

The sons of Ehud, chiefs of the subclans living at Geba, captured in war and exiled to Manahath: Naaman, Ahijah, Gera (also called Heglam), the father of Uzza and Ahihud.

Shaharaim divorced his wives Hushim and Baara, but he had children in the land of Moab by Hodesh, his new wife: Jobab, Zibia, Mesha, Malcam, Jeuz, Sachia, Mirmah. These sons all became chiefs of subclans.

His wife Hushim had borne him Abitub and Elpaal.
The sons of Elpaal were: Eber, Misham, Shemed (who built Ono and Lod and their surrounding villages).

His other sons were Beriah and Shema, chiefs of subclans living in Aijalon; they chased out the inhabitants of Gath. Elpaal’s sons also included: Ahio, Shashak, Jeremoth.

The sons of Beriah were: Zebadiah, Arad, Eder, Michael, Ishpah, Joha. The sons of Elpaal also included: Zebadiah, Meshullam, Hizki, Heber, Ishmerai, Izliah, Jobab.
The sons of Shimei were: Jakim, Zichri, Zabdi, Elienai, Zillethai, Eliel, Adaiah, Beraiah, Shimrath.

The sons of Shashak were: Ishpan, Eber, Eliel, Abdon, Zichri, Hanan, Hananiah, Elam, Anthothijah, Iphdeiah, Penuel.
The sons of Jeroham were: Shamsherai, Shehariah, Athaliah, Jaareshiah, Elijah, Zichri.

These were the chiefs of the subclans living at Jerusalem.
Jeiel, the father of Gibeon, lived at Gibeon; and his wife’s name was Maacah. His oldest son was named Abdon, followed by: Zur, Kish, Baal, Nadab, Gedor, Ahio, Zecher, Mikloth who was the father of Shimeah.

All of these families lived together near Jerusalem.

Ner was the father of Kish, and Kish was the father of Saul;
Saul’s sons included: Jonathan, Malchi-shua, Abinadab, Eshbaal.
The son of Jonathan was Mephibosheth;
The son of Mephibosheth* was Micah.
The sons of Micah: Pithon, Melech, Tarea, Ahaz.
Ahaz was the father of Jehoaddah, Jehoaddah was the father of: Alemeth, Azmaveth, Zimri. Zimri’s son was Moza.
Moza was the father of Binea, whose sons were: Raphah, Eleasah, Azel.
Azel had six sons: Azrikam, Bocheru, Ishmael, Sheariah, Obadiah, Hanan.
Azel’s brother Eshek had three sons --- in birth order: Ulam, Jeush, Eliphelet.
Ulam’s sons were important warriors who were expert bowmen. These men had 150 sons and grandsons, and they were all from the tribe of Benjamin.


Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 And Benjamin begat Bela his first-born, Ashbel the second, and Aharah the third,

2 Nohah the fourth, and Rapha the fifth.

3 And there are sons to Bela: Addar, and Gera,

4 and Abihud, and Abishua, and Naaman, and Ahoah,

5 and Gera, and Shephuphan, and Huram.

6 And these [are] sons of Ehud: they are heads of fathers to the inhabitants of Geba, and they remove them unto Manahath;

7 and Naaman, and Ahiah, and Gera, he removed them, and begat Uzza and Ahihud.

8 And Shaharaim begat in the field of Moab, after his sending them away; Hushim and Baara [are] his wives.

9 And he begetteth of Hodesh his wife, Jobab, and Zibia, and Mesha, and Malcham,

10 and Jeuz, and Shachiah, and Mirmah. These [are] his sons, heads of fathers.

11 And of Hushim he begat Ahitub and Elpaal.

12 And sons of Elpaal: Eber, and Misheam, and Shamer, (he built Ono and Lod and its small towns),

13 and Beriah and Shema, (they [are] the heads of fathers to the inhabitants of Aijalon -- they caused to flee the inhabitants of Gath),

14 and Ahio, Shashak, and Jeremoth,

15 and Zebadiah, and Arad, and Ader,

16 and Michael, and Ispah, and Joha, sons of Beriah,

17 and Zebadiah, and Meshullam, and Hezeki, and Heber,

18 and Ishmerai, and Jezliah, and Jobab, sons of Elpaal;

19 And Jakim, and Zichri, and Zabdi,

20 and Elienai, and Zillethai, and Eliel,

21 and Adaiah, and Beraiah, and Shimrath, sons of Shimei;

22 And Ishpan, and Heber, and Eliel,

23 and Abdon, and Zichri, and Hanan,

24 and Hananiah, and Elam, and Antothijah,

25 and Iphedeiah, and Penuel, sons of Shashak;

26 And Shamsherai, and Shehariah, and Athaliah,

27 and Jaareshiah, and Eliah, and Zichri, sons of Jeroham.

28 These [are] heads of fathers, by their generations, heads; these dwelt in Jerusalem.

29 And in Gibeon hath the father of Gibeon dwelt, and the name of his wife [is] Maachah;

30 and his son, the first-born, [is] Abdon, and Zur, and Kish, and Baal, and Nadab,

31 and Gedor, and Ahio, and Zacher;

32 and Mikloth begat Shimeah. And they also over-against their brethren dwelt in Jerusalem with their brethren.

33 And Ner begat Kish, and Kish begat Saul, and Saul begat Jonathan, and Malchi-Shua, and Abinadab, and Esh-Baal.

34 And a son of Jonathan [is] Merib-Baal, and Merib-Baal begat Micah;

35 and sons of Micah: Pithon, and Melech, and Tarea, and Ahaz:

36 and Ahaz begat Jehoadah, and Jehoadah begat Alemeth, and Azmaveth, and Zimri; and Zimri begat Moza,

37 and Moza begat Binea, Raphah [is] his son, Eleasah his son, Azel his son.

38 And to Azel [are] six sons, and these [are] their names: Azrikam, Bocheru, and Ishmael, and Sheariah, and Obadiah, and Hanan. All these [are] sons of Azel.

39 And sons of Eshek his brother: Ulam his first-born, Jehush the second, and Eliphelet the third.

40 And the sons of Ulam are men mighty in valour, treading bow, and multiplying sons and son's sons, a hundred and fifty. All these [are] of the sons of Benjamin.

[_ludwigm]

Bela, Ashbel, Aharah, Nohah, Rapha.
Addar, Gera, Abihud, Abishua, Naaman, Ahoah, Gera, Shephuphan, Huram.
...

And continue through hundreds of abracadabra words.



And the troglodytes and other Stone Age types had the thunder, the trees, the waters.

And they begat thunder-gods, tree sprites and water nymphs.

And these thunder-gods, these tree sprites, these water nymphs begat other ugly little gods.

And these ugly little gods begat thousands of religions with different taboos and spells.

And all of that religions begat new troglodytes, living in the XXI century and using computers and internet. They all believe that their ugly little god of thousand gods is the only one which counts.

And the list of the names of that new troglodytes contains the name LittleNipper.

And reciting the other names of the new troglodytes is as unnecessary as to rehearse Zebadiah, Arad, Eder, Michael, Ishpah, Joha, Zebadiah, Meshullam, Hizki, Heber, Ishmerai, Izliah, Jobab, Jakim, Zichri, Zabdi, Elienai, Zillethai, Eliel, Adaiah, Beraiah, Shimrath and such.

[_LittleNipper]

Bela, Ashbel, Aharah, Nohah, Rapha.
Addar, Gera, Abihud, Abishua, Naaman, Ahoah, Gera, Shephuphan, Huram.
...

And continue through hundreds of abracadabra words.



And the troglodytes and other Stone Age types had the thunder, the trees, the waters.

And they begat thunder-gods, tree sprites and water nymphs.

And these thunder-gods, these tree sprites, these water nymphs begat other ugly little gods.

And these ugly little gods begat thousands of religions with different taboos and spells.

And all of that religions begat new troglodytes, living in the XXI century and using computers and internet. They all believe that their ugly little god of thousand gods is the only one which counts.

And the list of the names of that new troglodytes contains the name LittleNipper.

And reciting the other names of the new troglodytes is as unnecessary as to rehearse Zebadiah, Arad, Eder, Michael, Ishpah, Joha, Zebadiah, Meshullam, Hizki, Heber, Ishmerai, Izliah, Jobab, Jakim, Zichri, Zabdi, Elienai, Zillethai, Eliel, Adaiah, Beraiah, Shimrath and such.

The unsaved made gods of mere mortal men, among whom was Nimrod. I certainly do not worship either Mary or Abraham. And you do rightly state that all false religion is the result of focusing on mortal man as being worthy of worship. There is but one GOD: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit ------ ONE GOD.

[_ludwigm]

The unsaved made gods of mere mortal men, among whom was Nimrod. I certainly do not worship either Mary or Abraham. And you do rightly state that all false religion is the result of focusing on mortal man as being worthy of worship. There is but one GOD: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit ------ ONE GOD.

Q.E.D.

...And these ugly little gods begat thousands of religions with different taboos and spells.

And all of that religions begat new troglodytes, living in the XXI century and using computers and internet. They all believe that their ugly little god of thousand gods is the only one which counts.
...

[_LittleNipper]

The unsaved made gods of mere mortal men, among whom was Nimrod. I certainly do not worship either Mary or Abraham. And you do rightly state that all false religion is the result of focusing on mortal man as being worthy of worship. There is but one GOD: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit ------ ONE GOD.

Q.E.D.

...And these ugly little gods begat thousands of religions with different taboos and spells.

And all of that religions begat new troglodytes, living in the XXI century and using computers and internet. They all believe that their ugly little god of thousand gods is the only one which counts.
...

To demonstrated I provide the example of Nimrod. And also early on in the Bible we have mention of Nephilim. Today may worship sports figures, actors and musicians ---- not so very different from the past. Many will spend hundreds to see a concert or a fight and yet balk at putting a dollar in the offering plate. I would say legends are thing false "gods" are made of.

[_ludwigm]

[#quote="LittleNipper"]The unsaved made gods of mere mortal men, among whom was Nimrod. I certainly do not worship either Mary or Abraham. And you do rightly state that all false religion is the result of focusing on mortal man as being worthy of worship. There is but one GOD: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit ------ ONE GOD.[#/quote]

Q.E.D.
[#quote="ludwigm"]...And these ugly little gods begat thousands of religions with different taboos and spells.

And all of that religions begat new troglodytes, living in the XXI century and using computers and internet. They all believe that their ugly little god of thousand gods is the only one which counts.
...#

To demonstrated I provide the example of Nimrod. And also early on in the Bible we have mention of Nephilim. Today may worship sports figures, actors and musicians ---- not so very different from the past. Many will spend hundreds to see a concert or a fight and yet balk at putting a dollar in the offering plate. I would say legends are thing false "gods" are made of.[/quote]
Please leave out Nimrod or nephilim.

Really? REALLY? Don't You read anything than Bible?

What about Allah, Zeus, Jupiter, Huitzilopochtli...
They are/were not mortal men, not sports figures, actors and musicians. They were deities. Same type as Your Yhwh/Yahveh/Jehovah, the primitive tribal god four thousand years ago.




Please don't sidestep again!

What makes Jehovah better --- or at least more believable --- than Allah, Zeus, Jupiter, Huitzilopochtli?
Why are they false gods, and why isn't Your pet one?



In the 79th of 133 page of this endless thread I wrote (and I bet You didn't read it...) :

There was a day when Jupiter was the king of all the gods, and any man who doubted his puissance was ipso facto a barbarian and an ignoramus. But where in all the world is there a man who worships Jupiter today? And what of Huitzilopochtli? In one year — and it was but five hundred years ago — no less than 50,000 youths and maidens were slain in sacrifice to him. Today, if he is remembered at all, it is only by some vagrant savage in the depths of the Mexican forest. Huitzilopochtli, like many other gods, had no human father; his mother was a virtuous widow; he was born of an apparently innocent flirtation that she carried on with the sun. When he frowned, his father, the sun, stood still. When he roared with rage, earthquakes engulfed whole cities. When he thirsted, he was watered with 10,000 gallons of human blood.

... not a musician, ehm ...