Answers to Creationist Attacks on C-14 Dating

[_Philo Sofee]

Little Nipper
SO, why are they not investigating ALL possibilities? Why are secular values considered more relavant than the spiritual? My guess is that most people don't wish to prove God exists, because it makes them uncomfortable with the choices they make in life. It is far "cheeper" and easier to proclaim innocence through not knowing. Unfortunitly, this will not work!

One very good book that could answer your questions sincerely if you are so inclined is Michael Martin. The name of his book is "Atheism a Philosophical Justification". So there you go there's a source for you to get into that could answer your questions.

[_Fence Sitter]

SO, why are they not investigating ALL possibilities? Why are secular values considered more [sic]relavant than the spiritual? My guess is that most people don't wish to prove God exists, because it makes them uncomfortable with the choices they make in life. It is far [sic]"cheeper" and easier to proclaim innocence through not knowing. [sic]Unfortunitly, this will not work!

One very good book that could answer your questions sincerely if you are so inclined is Michael Martin. The name of his book is "Atheism a Philosophical Justification". So there you go there's a source for you to get into that could answer your questions.

Philo,

Look at his grammar and spelling. He is not capable of reading a book like that.

[_Choyo Chagas]

Philo,

Look at his grammar and spelling. He is not capable of reading a book like that.

[_Fence Sitter]

Not that I think he would read it but this book would probably be more helpful for LN to understand, from a Christian point of view, how the New Testament should be read.

Biblical Literalism: A Gentile Heresy: A Journey into a New Christianity Through the Doorway of Matthew's Gospel

...[it]explains why a literal reading of the Gospels is actually heretical, and how this mistaken notion only entered the church once Gentiles had pushed out all the Jewish followers of Jesus.

[_Maksutov]

Not that I think he would read it but this book would probably be more helpful for LN to understand, from a Christian point of view, how the New Testament should be read.

Biblical Literalism: A Gentile Heresy: A Journey into a New Christianity Through the Doorway of Matthew's Gospel

...[it]explains why a literal reading of the Gospels is actually heretical, and how this mistaken notion only entered the church once Gentiles had pushed out all the Jewish followers of Jesus.

At some point sola scriptura becomes Bibliolatry.

[_The CCC]

We're well past that point now. If new books of the KJV of the Bible were discovered tomorrow people like LN and Kent Hovind would reject them out of hand.

[_Fence Sitter]

At some point sola scriptura becomes Bibliolatry.

Especially when one looses sight of the fact that even if you do believe in sola scriptura, one has to interpret what those scriptures mean.

The Scriptures' meaning is mediated through many kinds of secondary authority, such as the ordinary teaching offices of the Church, the ecumenical creeds, the councils of the Christian Church, and so on. However, sola scriptura rejects any original infallible authority other than the Bible

So while the scriptures may be held to be infallible, those interpreting them are not.

Seriously, anyone can make the scriptures say anything they want. If you believe the Bible is the ultimate authority, at least get some understanding of how it came to be. LN referenced the Dead Sea Scrolls above in one of his posts like they are some holy grail, yet it is clear he does not view the Bible in the same ways the authors of the dead sea scrolls did. Yes I know, the Bible didn't even exist at that time, but that is the whole point. Even conceding that it is the ultimate authority does not clarify much.

[_spotlight]

Hi LittleNipper,
This is an interesting article about the evolution of some common fruits and vegetables that seem to have gotten better over time rather than worse according to your assertion that things are degrading or winding down since "the fall."

http://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-what ... cated-them

[_Maksutov]

At some point sola scriptura becomes Bibliolatry.

Especially when one looses sight of the fact that even if you do believe in sola scriptura, one has to interpret what those scriptures mean.

The Scriptures' meaning is mediated through many kinds of secondary authority, such as the ordinary teaching offices of the Church, the ecumenical creeds, the councils of the Christian Church, and so on. However, sola scriptura rejects any original infallible authority other than the Bible

So while the scriptures may be held to be infallible, those interpreting them are not.

Seriously, anyone can make the scriptures say anything they want. If you believe the Bible is the ultimate authority, at least get some understanding of how it came to be. LN referenced the Dead Sea Scrolls above in one of his posts like they are some holy grail, yet it is clear he does not view the Bible in the same ways the authors of the dead sea scrolls did. Yes I know, the Bible didn't even exist at that time, but that is the whole point. Even conceding that it is the ultimate authority does not clarify much.

You have to have something with enough ambiguities, "noise" and non sequiturs that you can project other things onto it. That's why the Book of Revelation and the prophecies of Nostradamus are so popular. We connect the dots ourselves and that makes it more convincing to us.

[_The CCC]

It is not just the Book of Revelation that is problematic. Genesis has putting stick in the ground changes the genetics of farm animals.
SEE GENESIS 30:25-43