Modern Mormonism has become so bland and generic that its pronouncements could be interpreted so as to lend support to opposite positions.
Right on
However, one could also imagine that it refers to the sin of torture currently being committed by the neo-conservatives in power, enabled by the press and congress who tolerate violations of the (supposedly) God-inspired constitution in order to remain secure in their position at the governmental teat.
But judging by who is making these statements, do you really think that's what they mean? Who exactly are the neoconservatives and how are they different from the old conservatives?
I wasn't aware that the Church ever had a position on torture. Has anyone ever read anything about this? If I thought it would save American soldiers or civilians from murder or mayhem, I'd be all for torture as well. It seems that many liberals are content with a nonstatement by Muslims in regard to terrorism. I would take a step further and demand that they denounce it, as a measure of where they really stand on the issue. But then again, I would drop atom bombs before I sacrificed one American life. If that seems extreme and ethnocentric than so be it. I think every one of us deserves each others loyalty in a war.
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And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
Modern Mormonism has become so bland and generic that its pronouncements could be interpreted so as to lend support to opposite positions.
Right on
However, one could also imagine that it refers to the sin of torture currently being committed by the neo-conservatives in power, enabled by the press and congress who tolerate violations of the (supposedly) God-inspired constitution in order to remain secure in their position at the governmental teat.
But judging by who is making these statements, do you really think that's what they mean? Who exactly are the neoconservatives and how are they different from the old conservatives?
I wasn't aware that the Church ever had a position on torcher. Has anyone ever read anything about this? If I thought it would save American soldiers or civilians from murder or mayhem, I'd be all for torcher as well. It seems that many liberals are content with a nonstatement by Muslims in regard to terrorism. I would take a step further and demand that they denounce it, as a measure of where they really stand on the issue. But then again, I would drop atom bombs before I sacrificed one American life. If that seems extreme and ethnocentric than so be it. I think every one of us deserves each others loyalty in a war.
I won't venture to ask you to change your deeply held views on the question of inflicting agonising pain on people to get them to divulge information. I'm sure you have gone into it all carefully.
But maybe you could make the concession to us lily livered terrorist-loving liberals of spelling the word right?
It's : T.O.R.T.U.R.E
It comes basically from a Latin word meaning 'to twist', which is what you do when ... oh never mind. Just spell it right and we'll say no more.
Sorry, that was pretty dumb. The one thing I remember from law school. "Tort" as in tort law comes from the root word torture. But I'd still torch the whole country with a few atom bombs before I sent one American to patrol the streets as a target for insurgents!
Did you see Rambo? Did you see the liberal guy who scolded Rambo for killing several men to save the liberal man's life, saying "Taking a life is never right." Than after being subject to the "torture" of the Khamir Rouge for a while, he beat a Khamir Rouge soldier to death with a rock. Experience has a way of changing our outlook on morality.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.