More Wives after Death for Righteous LDS Men?

[_Jason Bourne]

Liz.... Frankly then you completely don't understand Plural Marriage in God's eyes.

Why is it when someone says something that disputes your view they simply just don't understand?

It's a higher law of LOVE...

Oh please. How so? Is it for the women? You want to share your wife with another man? How would you feel about that?

Not lust, not perversion, or anything else.

Maybe, maybe not. But it sure ain't about a higher law of love.

When it's practiced according to God's ways, it's pure and beautiful and completely non-compulsory.

Oh really. Read D&C 132. You know about Emma and that little itty bitty thing about being destroyed. Read 19th century leaders comments about a women being able to leave a man for someone of higher priesthood power and it that fact that they taught polygamy was REQUIRED for exaltation.

This is how the Church in most instances practiced it.

Joseph Smith certainly used compulsion and his power to persuade many women to marry him as well as to force his wife Emma to accept it. Read D&C 132 and keep in mind Emma was withheld her endowment till she conceded to polygamy.

This is not how apostate sects practice it. They have lost the light.

I guess Joseph Smith was practicing it like the apostates do.

I once condemned Polygamy also..... But I was so wrong, completely looking at it how the world does, not how God does, and also as to the full facts of the institution.

I think you were on the right track to condemn it. I have prayed about this. A lot. The Holy Ghost has told me polygamy was not of God.

[_Joseph]

Oberon wrote: "Liz.... Frankly then you completely don't understand Plural Marriage in God's eyes."

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and you do? Gordon Hinckley didn't - so what makes you think YOU do?

[_Buffalo]

It's a higher law of LOVE....

Women in polygamous relationships "expect too much attention from the husband and . . . become sullen and morose. . . ." She explained that "a successful polygamous wife must regard her husband with indifference, and with no other feeling than that of reverence, for love we regard as a false sentiment; a feeling which should have no existence in polygamy."

- Zina D. H. Young, faithful wife of Brigham Young

[_Jason Bourne]

Nothing in your C&P links refute anything I posted in the least. Sorry.

The angle that Alan Wyatt's article seemed to take was one of intent. He pointed out that Zina's various marriages were her choice, and that there was no malice or ill-intent on the part of either Brigham Young or Joseph Smith.

It has been a while since I read the article. But I do recall Wyatt putting it all on Zina. She made her choice, it was on her volition, who are we to question it. And sure, she may have had a nature that led her to really like the attention of powerful men even if it meant being one of many wives. And she was married to the two most powerful men in her cultural circle. It made me thinks a bit more poorly of her actually.

However, I think it nonsensical to argue there was not pressure on her. Joseph Smith approached her for marriage before she married Henry Jacob. She turned him down. Latter after she married Henry Smith continued to make proposals. Certainly she had to feel some continued pressure. After Joseph was killed and Brigham stepped in it made it all the easier for her to move over to Brigham especially given the fact they were at Winter Quarters and Henry had been sent off on a mission.

I, however, was not convinced of the ill-intent.

Yep. See above.

And, furthermore, even if the intent was not poor, a God who would force anyone to make this type of choice is monstrous, in my eyes. I just cannot believe that a loving Heavenly Father would approve of such cruelty.

He doesn't. It was all man made even if Joseph thought God was telling him to do this.

[_Yoda]

Thanks for your thoughtful posts on this subject, Jason. It is comforting to hear from an active member and former bishop, who believes along the same lines as I do.

Obiwan, Jason brought up some valid arguments. I would be interested in your response if you have a moment.

I know that Dr. Peterson is traveling, but his thoughts on the subject would be welcome as well.

[_harmony]

Fanny. Whatever defense can be mounted (sorry, no pun intended) for any of the others, there can be no defense for Fanny.