The Thief went to the Third Heaven

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_ldsfaqs
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Re: The Thief went to the Third Heaven

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Albion wrote:Finally, a Mormon admits that it is Joseph Smith's additions on which they base their "understanding" and not necessarily on the Bible passage which, I repeat, makes absolutely no reverence whatsoever to three heavens. No matter how you want to stretch the passage you are ultimately placing your trust in Joseph Smith and not God's word as presented in the Bible. Apparently, as you admit, you place your salvation in the hands of this man. Shifting sand indeed.


You just keep misrepresenting and misrepresenting.

1. Joseph (actually GOD) only adds a word to DESCRIBE a word ALREADY THERE..... There are THREE GLORY'S NOT "two" buddy.

2. Again, there is ONE Heaven, and THREE GLORY'S. Yes, the glory's are also called kingdoms, heaven's, etc., but so are a lot of things. Christ is also called "God", but he's not God, there is only ONE GOD and that is the Father, Christ himself said so.

3. I don't trust anyone but God and the Truth. Latter-day revelation in no way contradicts Biblical doctrine. And I actually know, having been in plenty of your religions before knowing of Mormonism and reading the Bible for myself, and seeing how your religions pervert and ignores what it wants. And also saw how Mormonism was the ONLY religion to fully and accurately fit the Bible.

So, spare me the "Bibliolartry"..... I follow God and seek all truth no matter where it comes.
You need to learn the difference between your man-made religions interpretations and what God's Word actually is.

I place my "trust" in Joseph Smith no more than I place my trust in ANY OTHER PROPHET of scripture. They are men called to share the Word. Period.
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Re: The Thief went to the Third Heaven

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ldsfaqs wrote:
Albion wrote:Finally, a Mormon admits that it is Joseph Smith's additions on which they base their "understanding" and not necessarily on the Bible passage which, I repeat, makes absolutely no reverence whatsoever to three heavens. No matter how you want to stretch the passage you are ultimately placing your trust in Joseph Smith and not God's word as presented in the Bible. Apparently, as you admit, you place your salvation in the hands of this man. Shifting sand indeed.


You just keep misrepresenting and misrepresenting.

1. Joseph (actually GOD) only adds a word to DESCRIBE a word ALREADY THERE..... There are THREE GLORY'S NOT "two" buddy.

2. Again, there is ONE Heaven, and THREE GLORY'S. Yes, the glory's are also called kingdoms, heaven's, etc., but so are a lot of things. Christ is also called "God", but he's not God, there is only ONE GOD and that is the Father, Christ himself said so.

3. I don't trust anyone but God and the Truth. Latter-day revelation in no way contradicts Biblical doctrine. And I actually know, having been in plenty of your religions before knowing of Mormonism and reading the Bible for myself, and seeing how your religions pervert and ignores what it wants. And also saw how Mormonism was the ONLY religion to fully and accurately fit the Bible.

So, spare me the "Bibliolartry"..... I follow God and seek all truth no matter where it comes.
You need to learn the difference between your man-made religions interpretations and what God's Word actually is.

I place my "trust" in Joseph Smith no more than I place my trust in ANY OTHER PROPHET of scripture. They are men called to share the Word. Period.


HAhem! LDSFAQs... So TSM comes to you and says: "In order for you to achieve Celestial Glory, God wants me to squirt my little Josephites in your wife and daughter??? And you're fine with that???!"
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Re: The Thief went to the Third Heaven

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ldsfaqs wrote:You just keep misrepresenting and misrepresenting.

1. Joseph (actually GOD) only adds a word to DESCRIBE a word ALREADY THERE..... There are THREE GLORY'S NOT "two" buddy.


Hi buddy, there are actually five:
Telestial, Terrestial and three in the Celestial.
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_Albion
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Re: The Thief went to the Third Heaven

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ldsfaqs, says that he "actually knows" Mormonism is true because she/he has been "in plenty of your religions" before knowing of Mormonism. Hardly a determining factor in the "knowing" department...presumably if it were, she/he would give more weight to the view of those who have been "in" Mormonism and are now out and "in" something else. By "perverting and ignoring" I assume she/he means perverting and ignoring Joseph Smith's version of things...but, of course, Mormons don't place their salvation in his hands in any way.
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