Goblins and ghouls

[_aussieguy55]

Brodie's biography was the definitive one only because there was none better until RSR came along. And it isn't completely faith-destroying either, unless you accept her inferences and her imagination about what dead people are thinking. Her reputation was destroyed when she butchered Thomas Jefferson.

Vogel and Quinn are nice (I don't know anything about Marquardt) but they have not published anything peer-reviewed. Deseret and Signature don't really count. They are dwarfed by Bushman, Turner, Givens, Shipps, and others whose works are in the most reputable venues around. For this reason the Church will gain from a movement towards better quality sources.[/quote]


Re Nelson's comment about Brodie

Brodie's argument that Jefferson had a relationship with one of his slaves (Sally Hemmings) has been supported by DNA evidence, her son's testimony and the fact she ONLY fell pregnant when Jefferson was home at Monticello. Annette Gordon-Reed has an award winning book The Hemingses of Monticello: An American Family . She appears in a doc on the matter on PBS Frontline program. Even the diehard conservative Jefferson scholars are conceding that he fathered at least one of Sally's children. Sally was the half-sister of Jefferson's first wife because her father was bonking Sally's mother. Do a youtube search on Gordon-Reed. She offers some interesting comments.

[_nc47]

Here is my last word: I commend you for not listing Grant Palmer among the heavyweights.

[_Dan Vogel]

Nelson Chung:

I am Facebook friends with Vogel and I know that he doesn't like formal education. His assumptions and methodology are off-the-wall.

Where do you get I don't like formal education?

[_nc47]

Nelson Chung:

I am Facebook friends with Vogel and I know that he doesn't like formal education. His assumptions and methodology are off-the-wall.

Where do you get I don't like formal education?

From your experiences with the school system.

[_Fence Sitter]

Why the title change and name change NC?

[_nc47]

People were asking me whether I was related to Wang.

[_Dan Vogel]

Nelson Chung:

I am Facebook friends with Vogel and I know that he doesn't like formal education. His assumptions and methodology are off-the-wall.

Where do you get I don't like formal education?

From your experiences with the school system.

I still have no idea what you are talking about??????

[_Shiloh]

I think especially needy of peer-review is Mormon apologetics. Thus far, only Hugh Nibley (early Christianity), David Paulsen (Mormon theism), Givens (Book of Mormon), and David Bokovoy (Divine council/Old Testament Studies) have published in peer-review venues.

You are wrong.

I've an article coming out later this year in a peer-reviewed journal. It relates to Mormonism and politics.

Mauss is well-published on Mormon topics.

Jeez man. Do you homework.

[_Shiloh]

I still have no idea what you are talking about??????

None of us do, Dan. None of us do.

[_LDSToronto]

My field is math, so I really don't really care what what the MHA has to say. Mormon studies is my hobby. If it's important enough, non-Mormons will turn heads.

So...knowing how to solve PDE's qualifies you to dismiss the MHA? That's some hubris.

H.