LittleNipper wrote: Tell your employer that you believe homosexual behavior is a sin and should not be encouraged with company funds and see if you don't receive some human resource investigative concerns with unemployment threats. And take such threats to the government and see how far you get!
Nipper, I do not think your employer has any legal obligation to accept your views about homosexuals.I can see no reason the government should get involved in that disagreement. It sounds to me that you find your self holding a variety of views which are socially unpopular and for unknown reason think the government is the cause of this situation. I am quite certain the source of the situation is that the majority of people in America hold to different views and experiences than you do.
I have no clue as to where you went to school but I was in public schools 1955 to 1967 and am sure people wore blue jeans quite commonly. Perhaps that is because agriculture is the primary industry where I live. I am unsure if people who are not allowed to ware jeans are better people but I do understand that different people have different understandings. You simply cannot expect everybody to dress and think like you.
(I know you discussed blue jeans in a different post and thread but the subject seemed to fit with these comments and subject)
LittleNipper wrote: Tell your employer that you believe homosexual behavior is a sin and should not be encouraged with company funds and see if you don't receive some human resource investigative concerns with unemployment threats. And take such threats to the government and see how far you get!
Nipper, I do not think your employer has any legal obligation to accept your views about homosexuals.I can see no reason the government should get involved in that disagreement. It sounds to me that you find your self holding a variety of views which are socially unpopular and for unknown reason think the government is the cause of this situation. I am quite certain the source of the situation is that the majority of people in America hold to different views and experiences than you do.
I have no clue as to where you went to school but I was in public schools 1955 to 1967 and am sure people wore blue jeans quite commonly. Perhaps that is because agriculture is the primary industry where I live. I am unsure if people who are not allowed to ware jeans are better people but I do understand that different people have different understandings. You simply cannot expect everybody to dress and think like you.
(I know you discussed blue jeans in a different post and thread but the subject seemed to fit with these comments and subject)
You are missing the point. An employer should have a legal right to his OWN values. Those values should not under the control/scrutiny of government. My or your values/opinions should not be the business of government. Employment should hinge on how well one does the job, is loyal towards the company and increases business. In the public school system I attended, jeans were frowned upon. They were meant for work and play where I lived. Such isn't really an issue. I was demonstrating how the Christian community at large once influenced segments of society. And this was in southern Jersey. Opinions can be changed, but that can happen overtly or covertly. And I can see that government does exert an influence. Right and wrong does not change --- people do (as the Bible demonstrates).
LittleNipper wrote:You are missing the point. An employer should have a legal right to his OWN values. Those values should not under the control/scrutiny of government. My or your values/opinions should not be the business of government. Employment should hinge on how well one does the job, is loyal towards the company and increases business. In the public school system I attended, jeans were frowned upon. They were meant for work and play where I lived. Such isn't really an issue. I was demonstrating how the Christian community at large once influenced segments of society. And this was in southern Jersey. Opinions can be changed, but that can happen overtly or covertly. And I can see that government does exert an influence. Right and wrong does not change --- people do (as the Bible demonstrates).
Nipper, I can see that employers have rights to determine their own policy. However they do so in a community and there are rules that do make some limitations on those choices. That is an inevitable part of any orderly society.
LittleNipper wrote:You are missing the point. An employer should have a legal right to his OWN values. Those values should not under the control/scrutiny of government. My or your values/opinions should not be the business of government. Employment should hinge on how well one does the job, is loyal towards the company and increases business. In the public school system I attended, jeans were frowned upon. They were meant for work and play where I lived. Such isn't really an issue. I was demonstrating how the Christian community at large once influenced segments of society. And this was in southern Jersey. Opinions can be changed, but that can happen overtly or covertly. And I can see that government does exert an influence. Right and wrong does not change --- people do (as the Bible demonstrates).
Nipper, I can see that employers have rights to determine their own policy. However they do so in a community and there are rules that do make some limitations on those choices. That is an inevitable part of any orderly society.
Well, it was once not the right of the Federal Government to tell communities what to limit and what not to limit (including education). And the US government in the past was of the people, by the people and for the people ---- not in spite of the people or merely the pawn of a selected few. Society seemed much more orderly 55 years ago, and the Federal Courts and the Federal Government had a lot less to say. But back then the declaration of God was encouraged as an important influencing factor, and not a begrudged exception.
Ezra 9:1-15 Some leaders of the people of Israel told Ezra that the people, the priests, and the Levites had not kept themselves separate from the people in the neighboring countries of Ammon, Moab, and Egypt or from the Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Jebusites, and Amorites. They were acting in the same perverted way these people did. Jewish men were marrying pagan women, and so God's holy people had become infiltrated. The leaders and officials were the worse offenders. Upon hearing this, Ezra tore his clothes and pulled his hair and beard in despair, and sat down burdened with grief. He continued to sat grieving until the time for the evening sacrifice to be offered. People began to gather around—all those who were frightened because of what the God of Israel had said about the sins of those who had returned from exile.
When the time came for the evening sacrifice, Ezra got up, and still wearing torn clothes, knelt in prayed --- stretching out his hands to God. He said, “God, I am ashamed to raise my head in your presence. Our sins pile up higher than our heads; they reach to the heavens. From the days of our ancestors until now, we, your people, have sinned greatly. Because of our sins we, our kings, and our priests have fallen into the hands of foreign kings, and we have been slaughtered, robbed, and carried away as prisoners. We are disgraced, to this today. Now for a short time, God, you have been gracious and have let some of us escape from slavery and live in safety in this holy land, and have given us new opportunities. You did not leave us in slavery. You made the rulers of Persia favor us and permit us to live and rebuild your Temple, which was in ruins, and to find safety here in Judah and Jerusalem.
“But now, God, what can we say? We have again disobeyed the commands that you gave us through your servants, the prophets. They told us that the land we were going to occupy was impure because the people who lived in it filled it from one end to the other with disgusting, filthy actions. They warned us that we were never to intermarry with those people and never to help them prosper or succeed if we wanted to enjoy the land and pass it on to our descendants forever. Even after everything that has happened to us in punishment for our sins and wrongs, we know that you, our God, have punished us less than we deserve and have allowed us to survive. How can we ignore your commandments again and intermarry with evil people? If we do, you will be so angry that you will destroy us completely and let no one survive. Lord God of Israel, you are just, but you have let us survive. We confess our guilt to you; we have no right to come to you.”
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
1 And at the completion of these things, drawn nigh unto me have the heads, saying, `The people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites, have not been separated from the peoples of the lands, as to their abominations, even the Canaanite, the Hittite, the Perizzite, the Jebusite, the Ammonite, the Moabite, the Egyptian, and the Amorite,
2 for they have taken of their daughters to them, and to their sons, and the holy seed have mingled themselves among the peoples of the lands, and the hand of the heads and of the seconds have been first in this trespass.'
3 And at my hearing this word, I have rent my garment and my upper robe, and pluck out of the hair of my head, and of my beard, and sit astonished,
4 and unto me are gathered every one trembling at the words of the God of Israel, because of the trespass of the removal, and I am sitting astonished till the present of the evening.
5 And at the present of the evening I have risen from mine affliction, and at my rending my garment and my upper robe, then I bow down on my knees, and spread out my hands unto Jehovah my God,
6 and say, `O my God, I have been ashamed, and have blushed to lift up, O my God, my face unto Thee, for our iniquities have increased over the head, and our guilt hath become great unto the heavens.
7 `From the days of our fathers we [are] in great guilt unto this day, and in our iniquities we have been given -- we, our kings, our priests -- into the hand of the kings of the lands, with sword, with captivity, and with spoiling, and with shame of face, as [at] this day.
8 `And now, as a small moment hath grace been from Jehovah our God, to leave to us an escape, and to give to us a nail in His holy place, by our God's enlightening our eyes, and by giving us a little quickening in our servitude;
9 for servants we [are], and in our servitude our God hath not forsaken us, and stretcheth out unto us kindness before the kings of Persia, to give to us a quickening to lift up the house of our God, and to cause its wastes to cease, and to give to us a wall in Judah and in Jerusalem.
10 `And now, what do we say, O our God, after this? for we have forsaken Thy commands,
11 that Thou hast commanded by the hands of thy servants the prophets, saying, The land into which ye are going to possess it, [is] a land of impurity, by the impurity of the people of the lands, by their abominations with which they have filled it -- from mouth unto mouth -- by their uncleanness;
12 and now, your daughters ye do not give to their sons, and their daughters ye do not take to your sons, and ye do not seek their peace, and their good -- unto the age, so that ye are strong, and have eaten the good of the land, and given possession to your sons unto the age.
13 `And after all that hath come upon us for our evil works, and for our great guilt (for Thou, O our God, hast kept back of the rod from our iniquities, and hast given to us an escape like this),
14 do we turn back to break Thy commands, and to join ourselves in marriage with the people of these abominations? art not Thou angry against us -- even to consumption -- till there is no remnant and escaped part?
15 `O Jehovah, God of Israel, righteous [art] Thou, for we have been left an escape, as [it is] this day; lo, we [are] before Thee in our guilt, for there is none to stand before Thee concerning this.'
huckelberry wrote:Nipper, Government sponsored ideology? What in the world are you talking about?. I cannnot think of a place and time when there was more freedom of religion, public expression of opinion and community controlled eduction. Is Ludwigm getting you aggravated?
Please read Your PMs...
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
Ezra 10:1-44 Ezra was praying and confessing, crying and bowing down in front of God’s Temple. A large group of the Israelites—men, women, and children—gathered around him crying. Shecaniah son of Jehiel, a descendant of Elam, spoke to Ezra and said, “We have not been faithful to our God. We have married the people living around us. But, even though we have done this, there is still hope for Israel. Let us make an agreement before God to send away all these women and their children. We will do that to follow Ezra's advice and the people who respect the laws of God. We will obey God’s law. Get up, Ezra. This is your responsibility, but we will support you. So be brave and do it.”
Ezra got up. He made the head priests, the Levites, and all the Israelites promise to do what he said. Ezra went from the front of the temple. He went to the room of Jehohanan son of Eliashib. While there, Ezra didn’t eat food or drink water. He did that because he was still very sad. He was upset about the Israelites who returned to Jerusalem. He sent a message everywhere in Judah and Jerusalem. This message told all the Jewish people returned from captivity to meet together in Jerusalem. Those who did not come in 3 days as the officials and elders said would lose their property and be expelled.
In 3 days all the men from the families of Judah and Benjamin gathered in Jerusalem. On the 12th day of the 9th month, all the people met together in the Temple yard. They were very upset because of the reason for the meeting and because of heavy rain. Ezra the priest stood and said to them, “You people have not been faithful to God. You have married pagan women. You have made Israel more guilty by doing that. Now confess your sins to the Lord, the God of your ancestors. obey his command. Separate yourselves from the people living around you and from your pagan wives.”
The whole group who met together answered Ezra. They shouted, “Ezra, you are right! We must do what you say. there are many people here. And it is the rainy time of year, we cannot stay outside. This problem cannot be solved in a day or two because we have gravely sinned . Let our leaders decide for the whole group meeting here. Then let every man in our towns who married a pagan woman come here to Jerusalem at a planned time. Let them come here with the elders and judges of their towns. Then God will stop being angry with us.”
Jonathan son of Asahel and Jahzeiah son of Tikvah, Meshullam and Shabbethai the Levite also were against the plan.
The Israelites who returned to Jerusalem accepted the plan. Ezra the priest chose men who were family leaders. He chose 1 man from each tribe --- chosen by name. On the 1st day of the 10th month, the men who were chosen sat down to study each case. By the 1st day of the 1st month, they finished discussing all the men who had married foreign women.
Among descendants of Jeshua son of Jozadak and Jeshua’s brothers, these men: Maaseiah, Eliezer, Jarib, and Gedaliah. All promised to divorce these wives. Each one offered a ram as a guilt offering. They did that because of their guilt.
Among descendants of Immer, these men: Hanani and Zebadiah.
Among descendants of Harim, these men: Maaseiah, Elijah, Shemaiah, Jehiel, and Uzziah.
Among descendants of Pashhur, these men: Elioenai, Maaseiah, Ishmael, Nethanel, Jozabad, and Elasah.
Among Levites, these are the men who married foreign women:
Jozabad, Shimei, Kelaiah (also called Kelita), Pethahiah, Judah, and Eliezer.
Among singers, this man married a foreign woman: Eliashib.
Among gatekeepers, these men married foreign women: Shallum, Telem, and Uri.
Among other Israelites, these men married foreign women:
Among descendants of Parosh, these men: Ramiah, Izziah, Malkijah, Mijamin, Eleazar, Malkijah, and Benaiah.
Among descendants of Elam, these men: Mattaniah, Zechariah, Jehiel, Abdi, Jeremoth, and Elijah.
Among descendants of Zattu, these men: Elioenai, Eliashib, Mattaniah, Jeremoth, Zabad, and Aziza.
Among descendants of Bebai, these men: Jehohanan, Hananiah, Zabbai, and Athlai.
Among descendants of Bani, these men: Meshullam, Malluch, Adaiah, Jashub, Sheal, and Jeremoth.
Among descendants of Pahath Moab, these men: Adna, Kelal, Benaiah, Maaseiah, Mattaniah, Bezalel, Binnui, and Manasseh.
Among descendants of Harim, these men: Eliezer, Ishijah, Malkijah, Shemaiah, Shimeon, 32 Benjamin, Malluch, and Shemariah.
Among descendants of Hashum, these men: Mattenai, Mattattah, Zabad, Eliphelet, Jeremai, Manasseh, and Shimei.
Among descendants of Bani, these men: Maadai, Amram, Uel, Benaiah, Bedeiah, Keluhi, Vaniah, Meremoth, Eliashib, Mattaniah, Mattenai, and Jaasu.
Among descendants of Binnui, these men: Shimei, Shelemiah, Nathan, Adaiah, Macnadebai, Shashai, Sharai, Azarel, Shelemiah, Shemariah, Shallum, Amariah, and Joseph.
Among descendants of Nebo, these men: Jeiel, Mattithiah, Zabad, Zebina, Jaddai, Joel, and Benaiah.
These men married pagan women, and some had children with these wives.
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
1 And at Ezra's praying, and at his making confession, weeping and casting himself down before the house of God, there have been gathered unto him out of Israel an assembly very great -- men and women and children -- for the people have wept, multiplying weeping.
2 And Shechaniah son of Jehiel, of the sons of Elam, answereth and saith to Ezra, `We -- we have trespassed against our God, and we settle strange women of the peoples of the land; and now there is hope for Israel concerning this,
3 and now, let us make a covenant with our God, to cause all the women to go out, and that which is born of them, by the counsel of the Lord, and of those trembling at the command of our God, and according to law it is done;
4 rise, for on thee [is] the matter, and we [are] with thee; be strong, and do.'
5 And Ezra riseth, and causeth the heads of the priests, the Levites, and all Israel, to swear to do according to this word -- and they swear.
6 And Ezra riseth from before the house of God, and goeth unto the chamber of Jehohanan son of Eliashib; yea, he goeth there, bread he hath not eaten, and water he hath not drunk, for he is mourning because of the trespass of the removal.
7 And they cause a voice to pass over into Judah and Jerusalem, to all sons of the removal, to be gathered to Jerusalem,
8 and every one who cometh not in by the third day, according to the counsel of the heads and of the elders, all his substance is devoted, and himself separated from the assembly of the removal.
9 And gathered are all the men of Judah and Benjamin to Jerusalem by the third day, it [is] the ninth month, on the twentieth of the month, and all the people sit in the broad place of the house of God, trembling on account of the matter and of the showers.
10 And Ezra the priest riseth, and saith unto them, `Ye -- ye have trespassed, and ye settle strange women, to add to the guilt of Israel;
11 and, now, make confession to Jehovah, God of your fathers, and do His good pleasure, and be separated from the peoples of the land, and from the strange women.'
12 And all the assembly answer and say [with] a great voice, `Right; according to thy word -- on us to do;
13 but the people [are] many, and [it is] the time of showers, and there is no power to stand without, and the work [is] not for one day, nor for two, for we have multiplied to transgress in this thing.
14 `Let, we pray thee, our heads of all the assembly stand, and all who [are] in our cities, who have settled strange wives, do come in at the times appointed, and with them the elders of city and city, and its judges, till the turning back of the fury of the wrath of our God from us, for this thing.'
15 Only Jonathan son of Asahel, and Jahaziah son of Tikvah, stood against this, and Meshullam, and Shabbethai the Levite, helped them.
16 And the sons of the removal do so, and Ezra the priest, [and] men, heads of the fathers, for the house of their fathers, are separated, even all of them by name, and they sit on the first day of the tenth month, to examine the matter;
17 and they finish with all the men who have settled strange women unto the first day of the first month.
18 And there are found of the sons of the priests that have settled strange women: of the sons of Jeshua son of Jozadak, and his brethren, Maaseiah, and Eliezer, and Jarib, and Gedaliah;
19 and they give their hand to send out their wives, and, being guilty, a ram of the flock, for their guilt.
20 And of the sons of Immer: Hanani and Zebadiah;
21 and of the sons of Harim: Masseiah, and Elijah, and Shemaiah, and Jehiel, and Uzziah;
22 and of the sons of Pashhur: Elioenai, Maaseiah, Ishmael, Nethaneel, Jozabad, and Elasah.
23 And of the Levites: Jozabad, and Shimei, and Kelaiah -- he [is] Kelita, -- Pethahiah, Judah, and Eliezer.
24 And of the singers: Eliashib. And of the gatekeepers: Shallum, and Telem, and Uri.
25 And of Israel: of the sons of Parosh: Ramiah, and Jeziah, and Malchijah, and Miamin, and Eleazar, and Malchijah, and Benaiah.
26 And of the sons of Elam: Mattaniah, Zechariah, and Jehiel, and Abdi, and Jeremoth, and Elijah.
27 And of the sons of Zattu: Elioenai, Eliashib, Mattaniah, and Jeremoth, and Zabad, and Aziza.
28 And of the sons of Bebai: Jehohanan, Hananiah, Zabbai, Athlai.
29 And of the sons of Bani: Meshullam, Malluch, and Adaiah, Jashub, and Sheal, and Ramoth.
30 And of the sons of Pahath-Moab: Adna, and Chelal, Benaiah, Maaseiah, Mattaniah, Bezaleel, and Binnui, and Manasseh.
31 And of the sons of Harim: Eliezer, Ishijah, Malchiah, Shemaiah, Shimeon,
32 Benjamin, Malluch, Shemariah.
33 Of the sons of Hashum: Mattenai, Mattathah, Zabad, Eliphelet, Jeremai, Manasseh, Shimei.
34 Of the sons of Bani: Maadai, Amram, and Uel,
35 Benaiah, Bedeiah, Cheluhu,
36 Vaniah, Meremoth, Eliashib,
37 Mattaniah, Mattenai, and Jaasau,
38 and Bani, and Binnui, Shimei,
39 and Shelemiah, and Nathan, and Adaiah,
40 Machnadbai, Shashai, Sharai,
41 Azareel, and Shelemiah, Shemariah,
42 Shallum, Amariah, Joseph.
43 Of the sons of Nebo: Jeiel, Mattithiah, Zabad, Zebina, Jadau, and Joel, Benaiah;
44 all these have taken strange women, and there are of them women -- who adopt sons.
1. What do we (here on MDB) can learn from this tohu Washington bohu of evasive frivolous inexpressive meaningless noncommittal null platitudinarian say-nothing names? 2. Can you quote - even - three pair of names above, with their family link --- by head? by the way in the last ten years I - the atheist husband of a TBM - listed tthree times in different events the names of Matthew 1 (OK, in Hungarian... and I highlighted that there are only three and a half women of the 42 generation were mentioned; Rachab, Ruth, wife of Urias and Mary) 3. Are you really that stupid that you don't see where are you?
Names, names, names; obsolete datas about three thousand years ago died - may be neverexisted - people; rules created for those people; then names again and again. Bani Binnu Shimei Shelemiah Natha Adaiah Abracadabra :
an incantation used as a magic word in stage magic tricks, and historically was believed to have healing powers when inscribed on an amulet
This is the description of your text.
Did you read my The Tragedy of Man comments in this thread (with four different English translation...) ? No, you didn't. At least, you never answered one of them. It is as - or more - wooorth to read as your copypasted verbal diarrhea.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
1. What do we (here on MDB) can learn from this tohu Washington bohu of evasive frivolous inexpressive meaningless noncommittal null platitudinarian say-nothing names? 2. Can you quote - even - three pair of names above, with their family link --- by head? by the way in the last ten years I - the atheist husband of a TBM - listed three times in different events the names of Matthew 1 (OK, in Hungarian... and I highlighted that there are only three and a half women of the 42 generation were mentioned; Rachab, Ruth, wife of Urias and Mary) 3. Are you really that stupid that you don't see where are you?
Names, names, names; obsolete datas about three thousand years ago died - may be neverexisted - people; rules created for those people; then names again and again. Bani Binnu Shimei Shelemiah Natha Adaiah Abracadabra :
an incantation used as a magic word in stage magic tricks, and historically was believed to have healing powers when inscribed on an amulet
This is the description of your text.
Did you read my The Tragedy of Man comments in this thread (with four different English translation...) ? No, you didn't. At least, you never answered one of them. It is as - or more - wooorth to read as your copypasted verbal diarrhea.
The names exist as historic references and help establish a timeline for events. The Tragedy of a Merchant deserves its own thread. I know where I am, and it certainly isn't in Hungary!
Nehemiah 1:1-11 These are the words of Nehemiah son of Hacaliah: Now in the month of Chislev in the 12th year in the reign of the Persian king, as Nehemiah was in the castle of Shushan, Hanani, a relative, came with certain men from Judah, and I asked them about the surviving Jews who had escaped exile, and about Jerusalem. They told Nehemiah that the remnant in the province who escaped exile were in trouble and reproach; the wall of Jerusalem is broken down, and the city gates were destroyed by fire. Upon hearing this Nehemiah sat down, wept, mourned for days, fasted and prayed [constantly] before the God.
Nehemiah prayed,
"O Lord God of heaven, great and terrible God, who keeps covenant, loving-kindness, and mercy for those who love Him and keep His commandments. Listen to and attend to my prayer --- which I pray before You day and night for the Israelites, Your servants, confessing the sins of the Israelites which we have sinned against You. Yes, I and my father’s house have sinned. We have acted corruptly against You and have not kept the commandments, statutes, and ordinances which You commanded Your servant Moses. Remember what You told Your servant Moses, 'If you transgress and are unfaithful, I will scatter you abroad among the nations; But if you return to Me and keep My commandments and do them, though your outcasts were in the farthest location of outer space, yet will I gather them from there and bring them to the place in which I have chosen to set My Name.' Now these are Your servants and people, whom You have redeemed by Your great power and strong hand. Lord, listen to my prayer and the prayer of Your servants who delight to revere and fear Your name (Your nature and attributes). Help me this day and grant me mercy in the sight of the King --- for I was his cupbearer."
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
1 Words of Nehemiah son of Hachaliah. And it cometh to pass, in the month of Chisleu, the twentieth year, and I have been in Shushan the palace,
2 and come in doth Hanani, one of my brethren, he and men of Judah, and I ask them concerning the Jews, the escaped part that have been left of the captivity, and concerning Jerusalem;
3 and they say to me, `Those left, who have been left of the captivity there in the province, [are] in great evil, and in reproach, and the wall of Jerusalem is broken down, and its gates have been burnt with fire.'
4 And it cometh to pass, at my hearing these words, I have sat down, and I weep and mourn [for] days, and I am fasting and praying before the God of the heavens.
5 And I say, `I beseech thee, O Jehovah, God of the heavens, God, the great and the fearful, keeping the covenant and kindness for those loving Him, and for those keeping His commands,
6 let Thine ear be, I pray Thee, attentive, and Thine eyes open, to hearken unto the prayer of Thy servant, that I am praying before Thee to-day, by day and by night, concerning the sons of Israel Thy servants, and confessing concerning the sins of the sons of Israel, that we have sinned against Thee; yea, I and the house of my father have sinned;
7 we have acted very corruptly against Thee, and have not kept the commands, and the statutes, and the judgments, that Thou didst command Moses Thy servant.
8 `Remember, I pray Thee, the word that Thou didst command Moses Thy servant, saying, Ye -- ye trespass -- I scatter you among peoples;
9 and ye have turned back unto Me, and kept My commands, and done them -- if your outcast is in the end of the heavens, thence I gather them, and have brought them in unto the place that I have chosen to cause My name to tabernacle there.
10 And they [are] Thy servants, and Thy people, whom Thou hast ransomed by Thy great power, and by Thy strong hand.
11 `I beseech Thee, O Lord, let, I pray Thee, Thine ear be attentive unto the prayer of Thy servant, and unto the prayer of Thy servants, those delighting to fear Thy Name; and give prosperity, I pray Thee, to Thy servant to-day, and give him for mercies before this man;' and I have been butler to the king.