Adam, first man circa 4,000 bc....?

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Digging up 3 yo old threads?
OK.

Like this man.

Or maybe as Alvin Smith?
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Oh, what a delightful little topic!!!!

Thanks for reviving this. I haven't had such a good chuckle in a while.
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Joseph Smith thought the earth was 2.5 billion years old. Not bad for the times he lived in, but his math is just as bad as Archbishop Ussher of a few centuries earlier. The LDS(Like anyone else) are free to believe the earth is of any age. As long as they believe God did it. They are free to believe it. I believe God did it some 4.55 billion years ago.
SEE http://eom.BYU.edu/index.php/Evolution
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The CCC wrote:Joseph Smith thought the earth was 2.5 billion years old. Not bad for the times he lived in, but his math is just as bad as Archbishop Ussher of a few centuries earlier. The LDS(Like anyone else) are free to believe the earth is of any age. As long as they believe God did it. They are free to believe it. I believe God did it some 4.55 billion years ago.
SEE http://eom.BYU.edu/index.php/Evolution


Why must God have dun it? Now, perhaps God started the big bang, but everything else naturally evolved. OR it is just as possible God naturally evolved in this universe. In either event, God doesn't have to have had a hand in the actual fashioning of this planet. That could simply have been a very natural process.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
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Tobin wrote:
The CCC wrote:Joseph Smith thought the earth was 2.5 billion years old. Not bad for the times he lived in, but his math is just as bad as Archbishop Ussher of a few centuries earlier. The LDS(Like anyone else) are free to believe the earth is of any age. As long as they believe God did it. They are free to believe it. I believe God did it some 4.55 billion years ago.
SEE http://eom.BYU.edu/index.php/Evolution


Why must God have dun it? Now, perhaps God started the big bang, but everything else naturally evolved. OR it is just as possible God naturally evolved in this universe. In either event, God doesn't have to have had a hand in the actual fashioning of this planet. That could simply have been a very natural process.


Mine is a simple statement of belief. The science doesn't require any god, but it doesn't dismiss a god either.
Science is Agnostic
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Maybe you're heard of Dr. Kenneth Miller
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The CCC wrote:Mine is a simple statement of belief. The science doesn't require any god, but it doesn't dismiss a god either.
Science is Agnostic
SEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJpYUxRL_3U
Maybe you're heard of Dr. Kenneth Miller
SEE https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/pl ... zilla&tt=b
Well, in that case, I believe Santa Claus made the Earth last Tuesday and made us all just think we lived before then and that the Earth (and universe) is much older than it actually is.
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You like everyone else are entitled to believe anything they want. :biggrin:
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The CCC wrote:Joseph Smith thought the earth was 2.5 billion years old.


I think Phelps believed the solar system or universe was that old. It's one statement in a letter from Phelps to Joseph's brother.

"Well, now, Brother William, when the house of Israel begin to come into the glorious mysteries of the kingdom, and find that Jesus Christ, whose goings forth, as the prophets said, have been from of old, from eternity; and that eternity, agreeably to the records found in the catacombs of Egypt, has been going on in this system, (not this world) almost two thousand five hundred and fifty five millions of years: and to know at the same time, that deists, geologists and others are trying to prove that matter must have existed hundreds of thousands of years; -- it almost tempts the flesh to fly to God, or muster faith like Enoch to be translated and see and know as we are seen and known!"
W. W. Phelps, Times and Seasons, vol.5, pg. 758, 1 Jan 1844


You may notice it does not say earth but this system. The number I believe is calculated from ideas about a day to God(or Kolob) is a 1000 years to us. This is not Joseph saying this but Phelps and his math was just calculating a day to God was a 1000 years to man and creation of the universe was 7000 years of God. Not sure where he gets some of these assumptions but it's not scientific in any way.
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