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Psalm 9:1-20 To the Music Director, `On the Death of Labben.' -- A Psalm of David

I testify of you with all my heart, Eternal One.
I will express to others Your amazing works.

I will be happy and celebrate You!
I will praise You, Most High!

When my enemies turned and ran, they fell and died before You,

For You supported my righteousness.
From Your throne, You have judged wisely.

You confront the nations; You destroyed the wicked.
You obliterate names from history.

The enemy is finished, their time is up;
their cities lie in ruin; their memorial is gone.

Still God remains and will reign forever;
He is on His throne for judgment.

He will judge the world righteously.
He will carry out that judgment equally on all people.

The Lord will shelter those in misery, and protect during troubling times.

Those who know Your name will depend on You,
for You, Lord, shall not abandoned those who seek You.

Praise Him who lives on Zion’s holy hill.
Tell the story of His great acts among the people!

He remembers victims of violence and avenges their blood;
He does not turn a deaf ear to prayers of the needy.

Be gracious to me, Lord.
Notice the trouble I have suffered because of my enemies,
You keep me safely from hell's door,

that I may recount Your deeds, and declare in Your salvation in heaven.

Nations have fallen into the pit they designed for others,
catching their own feet, snared by the very net they laid.

The Lord is known, for He has taken action and secured justice;
He has trapped the wicked by their own works. Always!

The wicked prefer the grave;
all the nations who forget the True God will share a similar fate.

For those who are desperate shall not always be ignored,
and the hope of the poor will not die.

Lord, arise! Do not allow mortals to triumph.
Judge the nations Yourself.

Designate a leader to the people.
Remind the nations they are merely human. Forever! [Please note: Here is another anti-Mormon comment. This verse seems to squash the notion that man was once a spirit baby child of God ---since the nations of man are only mortals.]

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 To the Overseer, `On the Death of Labben.' -- A Psalm of David.

I confess, O Jehovah, with all my heart, I recount all Thy wonders,

2 I rejoice and exult in Thee, I praise Thy Name, O Most High.

3 In mine enemies turning backward, they stumble and perish from Thy face.

4 For Thou hast done my judgment and my right. Thou hast sat on a throne, A judge of righteousness.

5 Thou hast rebuked nations, Thou hast destroyed the wicked, Their name Thou hast blotted out to the age and for ever.

6 O thou Enemy, Finished have been destructions for ever, As to cities thou hast plucked up, Perished hath their memorial with them.

7 And Jehovah to the age abideth, He is preparing for judgment His throne.

8 And He judgeth the world in righteousness, He judgeth the peoples in uprightness.

9 And Jehovah is a tower for the bruised, A tower for times of adversity.

10 They trust in Thee who do know Thy name, For Thou hast not forsaken Those seeking Thee, O Jehovah.

11 Sing ye praise to Jehovah, inhabiting Zion, Declare ye among the peoples His acts,

12 For He who is seeking for blood Them hath remembered, He hath not forgotten the cry of the afflicted.

13 Favour me, O Jehovah, See mine affliction by those hating me, Thou who liftest me up from the gates of death,

14 So that I recount all Thy praise, In the gates of the daughter of Zion. I rejoice on Thy salvation.

15 Sunk have nations in a pit they made, In a net that they hid hath their foot been captured.

16 Jehovah hath been known, Judgment He hath done, By a work of his hands Hath the wicked been snared. Meditation. Selah.

17 The wicked do turn back to Sheol, All nations forgetting God.

18 For not for ever is the needy forgotten, The hope of the humble lost to the age.

19 Rise, O Jehovah, let not man be strong, Let nations be judged before Thy face.

20 Appoint, O Jehovah, a director to them, Let nations know they [are] men! Selah.
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LittleNipper wrote:Psalm 9:1-20 To the Music Director
Music Director? Are you (or your oracle) drunken?


LittleNipper wrote:On the Death of Labben.
Who or what is this labben? And why he/she or it is written with capitals?


LittleNipper wrote:9 And Jehovah is a tower for the bruised, A tower for times of adversity.
KJV writes this verse as:
9. The LORD also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble.

As a miserable non-English, I don't understand these versions. In Hungarian Bible, that verse has no meaning, as well.


LittleNipper wrote:Selah.
You are welcomed. Please use more senseless words...
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
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Jesus Christ was setting the example for His followers by providing an illustration of submission. Also, it must be understood that when Christ took on a human mortality He emptied Himself and so then depended on the Heavenly Father for support. The nature of Christ would then be revealed to Israel through the power of the Holy Spirit ---- the Third person of the TRINITY.

Christ is baptized, the Holy Spirit signifies, and the Heavenly Father declares, "THIS is MY SON, in whom I AM well pleased!" :ugeek:
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ludwigm wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Psalm 9:1-20 To the Music Director
Music Director? Are you (or your oracle) drunken?


LittleNipper wrote:On the Death of Labben.
Who or what is this labben? And why he/she or it is written with capitals?


LittleNipper wrote:9 And Jehovah is a tower for the bruised, A tower for times of adversity.
KJV writes this verse as:
9. The LORD also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble.

As a miserable non-English, I don't understand these versions. In Hungarian Bible, that verse has no meaning, as well.


LittleNipper wrote:Selah.
You are welcomed. Please use more senseless words...

The Word Selah

Strong's Dictionary gives the meaning under number H5542 as follows; "suspension (of music), that is pause: Selah." After further examination the writer thinks that the word has a meaning that has nothing to do with the music involved.

Adam Clarke writes:

"Much has been said on the meaning of this word; and we have nothing but conjecture to guide us. The Septuagint always translate it by Äéáøáëìá diapsalma, "a pause in the Psalm." The Chaldee sometimes translates it by ïéîìòì lealmin, "for ever." The rest of the versions leave it unnoticed. It either comes from ìñ sal, to raise or elevate, and may denote a particular elevation in the voices of the performers, which is very observable in the Jewish singing to the present day; or it may come from äìñ salah, to strew or spread out intimating that the subject to which the word is attached should be spreadout, meditated on, and attentively considered by the reader. (underlining and bold added by CTK for emphasis) Fenwick, Parkhurst, and Dodd, contend for this meaning; and think "it confirmed by Psalm 9:16, where the word higgaion is put before selah at the end of the verse." Now higgaion certainly signifies meditation, or a fit subject for meditation; and so shows selah to be really a nota bene, attend to or mind this."

Easton's Bible Dictionary

The next reference is to Easton's Bible Dictionary; "A word frequently found in the Book of Psalms, and also in Hab. 3:9, 13, about seventy-four times in all in Scripture. Its meaning is doubtful. Some interpret it as meaning "silence" or "pause;" others, "end," "a louder strain," "piano," etc. The LXX. render the word by daplasma i.e., a division."

Holman's Bible Dictionary

Holman's Bible Dictionary gives the following: ; SELAH (see' luh) Term of unknown meaning appearing in psalms, outside Psalms only in Habakkuk 3. Scholars have advanced various unproveable theories: a pause either for silence or musical interlude, a signal for the congregation to sing, recite, or fall prostrate on the ground, a cue for the cymbals to crash, a word to be shouted by the congregation, a sign to the choir to sing a higher pitch or louder. The earliest Jewish traditions thought it meant "for ever."

Vine's Expository

Vine's Expository Dictionary has the following comments; "It is probably connected with salal, to lift up, said of the instruments, to increase the voice to sound), while the voice is silent (or perhaps a call to the voice to sound), or (less probably), with shalah to rest, indicating either the pause of the voice in singing or that only instruments were heard, or a break in the psalm where there is a call to rest and reflect on the preceding words. In Psalms 9:16 it follows the higgaion, which means meditations, as in its use in Psalms 19:14. The word is never used at the beginning of a psalm, nor has it any grammatical connection with the context. Its usual position is either at the end of a strophe or at the end of a psalm. It often connects what precedes with what follows (sometimes by way of contrast, as if to stress both, as if saying, "This being so, give heed to what is now to be said." (bold and underlining added by CTK) Its connecting significance may be seen in linking one psalm with another, as in Psalms 3 and 4."

Bullinger's Companion Bible says Selah is a connecting word that connects what has just been said with what is spoken next. They refer to the connection between Psa. 3:2 to vs. 3. They then move on to vs. 4 with vs. 5, showing the close connection there.

The Amplified Bible has this phrase after each use of Selah, "Pause, and calmly think of that." This seems a very plausible use of the word.

One can see there is a lot of disagreement as to what various ones think is meant by the word and what is conveyed in the use of it. Some think it is merely a musical term to direct the instruments and singers.

Others think that there was more intended, that of directing attention to the contents of the psalm and this is what I feel is most likely. Why would God who knew that the Psalms would be read and not sung over many years of their use put a meaningless musical term into them. He knew they would be printed in a book to encourage the readers thereof over a long period of history and to teach them many of the basics of the Gospel. This being the case it seems more likely that He would put in a word to call special attention to certain thoughts expressed by the writers of the Psalms.
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ludwigm wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Psalm 9:1-20 To the Music Director
Music Director? Are you (or your oracle) drunken?

A Psalm is a song. And as such, was originally sung and also apparently had instrumental accompaniment. I know of no church that doesn't designate an individual to lead the singing. I see nothing wrong with the terms Music Director or Song Leader, or Music Leader.
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ludwigm wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:9 And Jehovah is a tower for the bruised, A tower for times of adversity.
KJV writes this verse as:
9. The LORD also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble.

As a miserable non-English, I don't understand these versions. In Hungarian Bible, that verse has no meaning, as well.

Ludwigm ---- let me see if I may help you.

God is essentially being looked upon here as like a castle that protects those within its walls during an attack. I hope that this helps you. Thanks for your interest.
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LittleNipper wrote:
The Erotic Apologist wrote:Image

Jesus Christ was setting the example for His followers by providing an illustration of submission. Also, it must be understood that when Christ took on a human mortality He emptied Himself and so then depended on the Heavenly Father for support. The nature of Christ would then be revealed to Israel through the power of the Holy Spirit ---- the Third person of the TRINITY.

Christ is baptized, the Holy Spirit signifies, and the Heavenly Father declares, "THIS is MY SON, in whom I AM well pleased!" :ugeek:


Still waiting for you to back that up in a way that doesn't involve:

  • circular logic
  • special pleading
  • causal oversimplification
  • begging the question
  • false attribution
  • bait-and-switch
  • deception
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