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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:You don't believe His Word.
You mean the Bible? God didn't write the Bible.


LittleNipper wrote:God isn't about quantity of living matter------ but the quality of the soul. And the fact is that space and eternity mean nothing to a being who can create whatever He wishes, wherever He wishes, and has all time that will ever exist at His command.
This sounds more like an entity a science fiction novel than the Biblical Yahweh.


LittleNipper wrote:If life existed on other planets, I believe that it would be God that would have put it there.
Thank you for admitting these are matters of faith and belief, not fact.


LittleNipper wrote:But I must admit, if it were proven tomorrow that we were the only planet in the entire universe with any life on it, atheists would be very hard pressed to believe that life on this singular rock at the edge of the Milky Way was anything but a miracle --- no matter what you might suggest otherwise.
You're in no position to "admit" this if you're not an atheist. This is nothing but a clumsy attempt at a straw man argument.


LittleNipper wrote:This would simply be another nail in the coffin of the unbeliever.
Of course, because you believe in a god of pain, vengeance, and death.



You are such a Scarecrow to ridicule my "Straw Man.". I believe in a God who made a provision so insensitive people might have a chance at eternal life, and not eternal separation. And you are right that the opinion that organic life must exist elsewhere is a matter of faith and belief and not a known fact. And why should God write the Bible when He could enlist mortal men to do it?
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LittleNipper wrote:You are such a Scarecrow to ridicule my "Straw Man.".
This scarecrow's got a brain, nipper. You should look into acquiring one. They can be quite useful.

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LittleNipper wrote:I believe in a God who made a provision so insensitive people might have a chance at eternal life, and not eternal separation.
Again, thank you for admitting these are matters of faith and belief, not fact.


LittleNipper wrote:And you are right that the opinion that organic life must exist elsewhere is a matter of faith and belief and not a known fact.
Yes, of course it's a matter of faith, at least for now. So what?


LittleNipper wrote:And why should God write the Bible when He could enlist mortal men to do it?
If he neither wrote nor dictated the Bible, then it's not his word. What's the point of calling it "his word" if he neither wrote nor dictated it? (This is why Islamists make a point of saying the Quran was dictated to Mohammad.)
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Habakkuk 2:2 Then ADONAI answered me; He said, "Write down the vision clearly on tablets, so that one reading it may run." Psalms 68:11 God gave the word, great was the company of those who published it. The Apostle Paul said, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God (God-breathed) ..." (II Timothy 3:16). Peter claimed, "We have not followed cunningly devised fables ... We have a more sure word of prophecy ... For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." (II Peter 1:16-21).
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LittleNipper wrote:Habakkuk 2:2 Then ADONAI answered me; He said, "Write down the vision clearly on tablets, so that even a runner can read it.
That's nice.
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Psalm 32:1-11 A song of David --- contemplation

A person is blessed whose offense is forgiven, whose sin is covered.

Blessed is the man against whom the Lord does not hold immorality, and in whose spirit there is no fraud.

When I remained silent, my bones ached amid my groaning all day long.

Continuously, Your hand was heavy on me; my youth was changed into the drought of summer.

I acknowledged my sin to You, and my immorality I did not hide. I said, “I will confess my crimes to the Lord,” and You forgave the perverseness of my sin. (imagine that)

For this reason everyone who is godly will pray to You whenever possible; in a tumultuous situation such will be difficult at best.

You are my hiding place; You will preserve me in troubled times; You will remind me that deliverance is on the way. (imagine that)

I will enlighten you and educate you in the direction you should take; I will counsel you as I view your progress.

Do not be as a stupid horse or as the mule, that must be restrained with bit and bridle, or they will not go as directed.

Much sadness will come to the wicked, but lovingkindness will surround the man who trusts the Lord.

Be happy in the Lord, and rejoice, you who is righteous; Yell joyously, all you who are upright in the Spirit!

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 By David. -- An Instruction. O the happiness of him whose transgression [is] forgiven, Whose sin is covered.

2 O the happiness of a man, To whom Jehovah imputeth not iniquity, And in whose spirit there is no deceit.

3 When I have kept silence, become old have my bones, Through my roaring all the day.

4 When by day and by night Thy hand is heavy upon me, My moisture hath been changed Into the droughts of summer. Selah.

5 My sin I cause Thee to know, And mine iniquity I have not covered. I have said, `I confess concerning My transgressions to Jehovah,' And Thou -- Thou hast taken away, The iniquity of my sin. Selah.

6 For this doth every saintly one pray to Thee, As the time to find. Surely at an overflowing of many waters, Unto him they come not.

7 Thou [art] a hiding-place for me, From distress Thou dost keep me, [With] songs of deliverance dost compass me. Selah.

8 I cause thee to act wisely, And direct thee in the way that thou goest, I cause mine eye to take counsel concerning thee.

9 Be ye not as a horse -- as a mule, Without understanding, With bridle and bit, its ornaments, to curb, Not to come near unto thee.

10 Many [are] the pains of the wicked; As to him who is trusting in Jehovah, Kindness doth compass him.

11 Be glad in Jehovah, and rejoice, ye righteous, And sing, all ye upright of heart!
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LittleNipper wrote:Psalm 32:1-11

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 By David. -- An Instruction. O the happiness of...blah...blah...blah...

David is Yahweh's ghost writer?
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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Psalm 32:1-11

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 By David. -- An Instruction. O the happiness of...blah...blah...blah...

David is Yahweh's ghost writer?

Psalms 68:11 God gave the word, great was the company of those who published it.
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LittleNipper wrote:Psalms 68:11 God gave the word, great was the company of those who published it.

So Yahweh dictated the Bible in the same way Allah supposedly dictated the Quran?

Why does Yahweh need a Bronze Age tribesman to be his ghost writer?
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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Psalms 68:11 God gave the word, great was the company of those who published it.

So Yahweh dictated the Bible in the same way Allah supposedly dictated the Quran?

Why does Yahweh need a Bronze Age tribesman to be his ghost writer?
Because what GOD reveals is truth He is not the puppet of one "educated" individual's mindset ---- such as a ""Mohamed" or a "Joseph Smith"...
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LittleNipper wrote:
The Erotic Apologist wrote:So Yahweh dictated the Bible in the same way Allah supposedly dictated the Quran?

Why does Yahweh need a Bronze Age tribesman to be his ghost writer?
Because what GOD reveals is truth He is not the puppet of one "educated" individual's mindset...
Nope--this has nothing to do with Yahweh's fetish for primitive tribesmen obsessed with human sacrifice and bodily fluids. You're dodging the question.

Why do these simple, straightforward questions frighten you?


LittleNipper wrote:---- such as a ""Mohamed" or a "Joseph Smith"...
What makes your mythology better than theirs?
Surprise, surprise, there is no divine mandate for the Church to discuss and portray its history accurately.
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I pray thee, sir, forgive me for the mess. And whether I shot first, I'll not confess.
--Han Solo, from William Shakespeare's Star Wars
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