The LDS members and the Kingdom of God

[_Drifting]

Drifting, you are a typical shallow anti.

That doesn't make me a bad person, nor does it make me wrong!

You mention a few bad apples whom Brigham Young tried to stop, and compare that to an estimated 50,000,000 slain during the inquisition, which the pope apologized for centuries later. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints owes no apology for that since Brigham Young tried to stop that.

CFR

If I go out and kill someone, would the church need to apologize for me?!?

Yes, if you did so in the name of Mormonism and with a band of Mormons who had been organised through the structure of the Church.

On the other hand, the inquisition was church sponsored!

So was MMM

Maybe you don't know history very well, but the Mormons were the main ones being persecuted and driven from their homes!!!

Oh, I think you will find that the Mormons have killed more people than the other way around.
Buffalo - care to give us the stats?

[_gdemetz]

You're wrong again! See the Ensign article entitled "Mountain Meadows Massacre" (see also the subtopic entitled "Communication Too Late").

[_Drifting]

You're wrong again! See the Ensign article entitled "Mountain Meadows Massacre" (see also the subtopic entitled "Communication Too Late").

Ensign article...
You don't think perhaps there may have been a slight resistance to full disclosure in that article....?

Try doing proper research using independent scholarly sources on the topic and see what you come up with then.

[_gdemetz]

I have done that. I have looked at many sites. However, I have noticed that it is often business as usual with the Satanic inspired anti's. Never mind the murders, rapes, expulsions. tar and featherings, beatings, etc., etc., etc. of the Mormons, after all, they are only Mormons! Also, never mind the millions killed during the Catholic inquisitions, at least they weren't members of God's true church which we despise! We have found some rare wrongs done by Mormons which we can use to discredit the church!

[_schreech]

I have done that. I have looked at many sites. However, I have noticed that it is often business as usual with the Satanic inspired anti's. Never mind the murders, rapes, expulsions. tar and featherings, beatings, etc., etc., etc. of the Mormons, after all, they are only Mormons! Also, never mind the millions killed during the Catholic inquisitions, at least they weren't members of God's true church which we despise! We have found some rare wrongs done by Mormons which we can use to discredit the church!

The fact that you think millions were killed in the inquisitions just makes the rest of your non-nonsensical rants laughable.

[_gdemetz]

You think that millions being killed is laughable?!? How exactly is that? You have two comments now which I have addressed and neither one of them makes much of a point!

[_Drifting]

You think that millions being killed is laughable?!? How exactly is that? You have two comments now which I have addressed and neither one of them makes much of a point!

What's your view on God's murdering of the entire planet, including women and children and babies and unborn babies, except for eight people?

[_Franktalk]

I have read all those FrankTalk, thanks. I was just mentioning the great prophesy in Daniel 2 which shows clearly that Christ's kingdom is a restored one, otherwise, why was it necessary to set it up in the last days well after the Roman empire and the church which spring from it was set up?

The rock that strikes the feet of the statue does not come from within. It is not a developed church but one that enters at the end. As I pointed out in my commentary of 2 Peter I think that the "present truth" has been restored by Jesus using Peter and others. I find it very interesting that even the date is given.

As I read the Bible for the first time I concentrated on prophecy to lead me to truth. I compared what was said against what happened. I found that we should read prophecy quite literal. But I also know that each one has enough wiggle room for people who don't see with spiritual eyes to read just flat words on a page. For me the biggest proof of God is the comparison between my reading of scripture which is alive and vibrant and someone else which may be totally flat and meaningless. It just proves the scriptures right because it is all described so well in the verses. Then people come back and say that it is all in my head. They ignore the hundreds of fulfilled prophecies. Even modern ones right in front of their face.

[_Drifting]

For me the biggest proof of God is the comparison between my reading of scripture which is alive and vibrant and someone else which may be totally flat and meaningless.

The biggest proof of God is that people disagree with you about scriptures? Really?

[_Themis]

You think that millions being killed is laughable?!? How exactly is that?

Not to sharp are we. He said that you think it was millions that is laughable, not that killing millions is laughable. Try reading for comprehension.