LittleNipper wrote:Maksutov wrote:
WHY ARE YOU SAYING THAT I AM RUDE!!
There, how do you like that, Nipper?
Oh, I do care what I say. And I'm fully aware that I'm posting on your Bible cut and paste "threat". That's my whole point. We're no longer in the Middle Ages when you could have had me killed for blasphemy or disagreeing with the priest. You can still do that in Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia, so there's hope for you there.
I also think that it's "rude" to claim, in effect, that thousands of scientists are liars and frauds while you promote an absurd and discredited perspective on the universe. It's your freedom to do so and my freedom to criticize it. Do you like freedom, Nipper?
I see nothing worded any differently but merely in capital letters. I suppose that you are trying to get my attention... I'm an average child of the 1950's who attended Sunday School and walked to school. I don't want you to hate me. I want you to want to come to heaven someday and meet there. And I don't see you getting there without the Lord Jesus Christ (Messiah). I copy and paste the Young's Translation because most people who have read the Bible never read that version. And I paraphrase it so that I can show others how I'm reading what is there. Here is a chance to read along and ask questions about what is being revealed. It is not a place to argue. And the age of the LAW ended on the cross. The decision is yours ---- threats never work, but all roads lead somewhere. I want you to be heading towards heaven. That road was paved with the blood of Jesus. May sound terrible but it's quite graphic and honest.
All caps has been interpreted as shouting in internet exchanges for a couple of decades now. It isn't just me saying this. Go on other fora and start posting in all caps and see what happens.
I don't hate you or Jesus or the Bible or anything like that Nipper. But I certainly disagree with you and will say so. You can describe that as an "argument" if you like.
I have spent my whole life trying to understand religion and religious people. I took the "leap of faith" when I was 18 years old. I set aside what I thought and had been taught and submitted myself to a church. It was the biggest mistake of my life. It was me trying to be someone else, someone that others wanted me to be. It put me at war with myself. Every time I listened to a religious talk I tried to find any way that I could to make it true, but after years of this I realized that I was coming up with it all myself. Someone wanted me to be something for their reasons, but they had no right to my life or to judge me. I say the same thing to you, Nipper. I sought Jesus and found him to be imaginary, a projection of people's own ideas and feelings, not objectively real. The books that claim to record his life are not convincing, any more than those that tell the life of Buddha or Mohammed. You can cut and paste, you can preach all you want, but if you do it to other people who have their own minds and wills, you will get resistance from some.
You act as if there is one way to understand the Bible. If you look at the last 2,000 years you can see that everyone has disagreed about the Bible and wars have been fought over these interpretations. Millions of Jews were murdered partly on the justification that they were "Christ-killers" because the Bible said so. These beliefs have real consequences, Nipper. That's why I'm here to challenge you when I think it's appropriate. I hope you won't take it personally.
There are many Christians who disagree with how you interpret your book. You have an argument with them as well. Please try not to burn any at the stake, no matter what your book says. 
