ludwigm wrote:7. Stupid translators - hired by a king called James, who was really Jacob - used in their work, a Bible, two different name for one person. They called the prophet mentioned above Elijah and Elias. If the king can have two name, then why not the prophets? End of the lesson.
The others are history.
I don't think they were stupid. :) Forty-seven men had been divided into six groups of translators. Each group were assigned different texts to translate. The groups did not work with each other on name translations. So, one group translated the name to Elijah, another to Elias.
There are other names/places with the same translation differences in the KJV, also because of the different groups of men doing the translation.
Being a Christian is not the result of an ethical choice or a lofty idea, but the encounter with an event, a person, which gives life a new horizon and a decisive direction -Pope Benedict XVI
ludwigm wrote:7. Stupid translators - hired by a king called James, who was really Jacob - used in their work, a Bible, two different name for one person. They called the prophet mentioned above Elijah and Elias. If the king can have two name, then why not the prophets? End of the lesson.
The others are history.
I don't think they were stupid. :) Forty-seven men had been divided into six groups of translators. Each group were assigned different texts to translate. The groups did not work with each other on name translations. So, one group translated the name to Elijah, another to Elias.
There are other names/places with the same translation differences in the KJV, also because of the different groups of men doing the translation.
+ near all names in Mathew 1 are different in the Old Testament + Jeremy, a third variation for Jeremiah-Jeremias + Zidon-Sidon, Zarephath-Sarepta (in the Elias-Elijah story)
Well, they were not sooo stupid. They should have managed a Correlation Committee...
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
ludwigm wrote:+ near all names in Mathew 1 are different in the Old Testament + Jeremy, a third variation for Jeremiah-Jeremias + Zidon-Sidon, Zarephath-Sarepta (in the Elias-Elijah story)
Well, they were not sooo stupid. They should have managed a Correlation Committee...
Apparently, all the translated work was sent to a "General Committee of Review".
Being a Christian is not the result of an ethical choice or a lofty idea, but the encounter with an event, a person, which gives life a new horizon and a decisive direction -Pope Benedict XVI
gdemetz wrote:Well Madaline, what's your excuse for the inquisition? "By their fruits ye shall know them." Was all that sent to a committee also?!?
If you're interested, which I doubt, there are good historical, scholarly, works that cover the inquisitions.
There was more than one and more than one circumstance in which they occurred. They were actions of men.
If you want me to judge by fruits, I suggest looking to that beam that is stuck there, in your eye. If you're the typical Mormon fruit, then I'm sure the whole barrel is rotting.
Being a Christian is not the result of an ethical choice or a lofty idea, but the encounter with an event, a person, which gives life a new horizon and a decisive direction -Pope Benedict XVI
The Mormon church would have a long way to go to catch up with all the evils done by your church, and there are so many sites which document clearly the horrors that were instigated from the highest offices in your church!
gdemetz wrote:The Mormon church would have a long way to go to catch up with all the evils done by your church, and there are so many sites which document clearly the horrors that were instigated from the highest offices in your church!
"your reasoning that children should be experimented upon to justify a political agenda..is tantamount to the Nazi justification for experimenting on human beings."-SUBgenius on gay parents "I've stated over and over again on this forum and fully accept that I'm a bigot..." - ldsfaqs
gdemetz wrote:...inquisition ... madeleine's church
Please don't pollute my thread this way! Open another for inquisition, if You want.
JST 9:3 - And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses or in other words, John the Baptist and Moses: and they were talking with Jesus. This words put an equal sign between John the Baptist and Elias.
This is the topic.
by the way Apparently You did forget to answer my prayer:
ludwigm wrote:Please translate us, miserable non-cebuano-speakers, who Elijah is for the Cebuano speakers?
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
gdemetz wrote:But, John the Baptist was not Elias and not Elijah, so the name had another meaning, obviously. That is my point.
Do You can read?
What does this sentence mean in normal, everyday English language? JST 9:3 - And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses or in other words, John the Baptist and Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.
gdemetz wrote: I only speak English, and a little Cebuano.
None of them, as You prove it again and again.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
