Is God a Mormon?

[_subgenius]

How does City Creek, specifically, combat Urban Blight (as opposed to merely making Temple Square look better)?

are you not going to bother reading my posts before you reply?
it may prove helpful if you are familiar, at any level, with the issues:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_blight

also note previous view of city creek from 1983

How does City Creek, specifically, revitalise the businesses (as opposed to a small number of selected businesses whilst others are harmed)?

Urban renewal is not a silver bullet issue, but thanks for continuing down the more obtuse path of reason.

competition is regarded, and proven, to be a healthy aspect of American economy. Many businesses have reported positive influence from the increased consumer traffic created by city creek. This effect has also directly influenced new businesses opening in Farmington mall. New businesses have opened due to this increased consumer opportunity, ie Harmons grocery.

How does City Creek, specifically, make bad men good?

read urban blight link provided above

How does the advertising for City Creek reflect Church standards?

huh? did you just have a Transient Ischemic Attack? add this to the list of incoherent questions (or maybe just the non sequitur ones)

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[_subgenius]

note previous view of city creek from 1983


This was a short lived event from heavy snow melt , and the underground routed section of city creek not being able to handle the volume (which shows poor planning back then)

yes, and poor planning is bad for business...bad for city...etc...

The decision to bring the creek back to the surface was an aesthetic one.

agree...but it was likely more of a marketing decision not a aesthetic one.

It would actually be pretty funny if they get that freak snow melt again , and it wipes out the city creek mall. I suppose it would then flood the under ground parking area for the temple , where they bought that section of main street and closed it down to traffic ... and now try to enforce moral standards with their Mormon gestapo.

i agree with the first part, but hopefully an engineer was involved at some point...and then you seem to get off the reservation with your aluminum foil hat.

That section you are showing is about 3/4 mile away from city creek. 8th south I believe , a section where I guess you could say had urban blight for many years. But salt lake doesn't have much urban blight when compared to other cities , and especially never the section where city creek was built.

arguable

Hmmm , where is this Harmons located your talking about? And Farmington is a heck of a long way from this , I don't see how it effected them at all. It would be the completion of that new road way that helped to alleviate the traffic on the davis county section of I-15 , and it happens to cross right at Farmington.

Harmons is to the east...and the impact on Farmington is that the retailers at city creek were able to use that as a launching pad to open in other locations...they "expanded" into the area markets after being initially introduced....and since when did 15 miles up I-15 equate to a "heck of a long way"? is it because you meander around Bountiful?

[_Bazooka]

Subby, why did Mormon God decide that billions of dollars worth of interest gained from investing tithing donations received from all around the globe should have been focussed on addressing the Urban Blight solely within the view of the Penthouse veranda of the Prophet as opposed to the Urban Blight that plagues places like Africa where His children die from hunger and lack of clean water?

Let's do a comparison:
1. How much of tithing donations/interest from investing tithing donations (in dollars), has God spent on addressing Urban Blight in downtown Salt Lake City?
2. How much of donations/interest from investing tithing donations (in dollars), has God spent on addressing hunger and unsafe water in third world countries?

[_subgenius]

Subby, why did Mormon God decide that billions of dollars worth of interest gained from investing tithing donations received from all around the globe should have been focussed on addressing the Urban Blight solely within the view of the Penthouse veranda of the Prophet as opposed to the Urban Blight that plagues places like Africa where His children die from hunger and lack of clean water?

Let's do a comparison:
1. How much of tithing donations/interest from investing tithing donations (in dollars), has God spent on addressing Urban Blight in downtown Salt Lake City?
2. How much of donations/interest from investing tithing donations (in dollars), has God spent on addressing hunger and unsafe water in third world countries?

This is a horribly absurd and incompetent post from you.
I have no information, and it is highly unlikely, that your claim is accurate or true...city creek is estimated at $1.5 billion...or that billions of dollars were from interest from tithing....perhaps you could CFR your outlandish claims else i will assume you have conceded your statement as nothing more than inflammatory blather.
Perhaps you should research many of the other people involved, like "Taubman"...a famous shopping developer, who is known to have invested at least $76 million in the city creek project...and then research how tax incentives are calculated into the "costs" of large development projects such as this....and then understand how soft costs, hard costs, etc.. factor in to project "costs"....
then, finally, provide evidence and proof that tithing money was used by Property Reserve inc. in the development of this, or any other, project.

If one compares the amount of money the church had involved in city creek to the amount of money the church spends on bishop storehouse food orders, emergency relief, on the clean water initiative in Africa (http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/africa-clean-water), etc..
one would realize that the latter amount is almost unfathomable, while the former is only big to those who think small.

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Thanks Mk, you made the point more eloquently than I.
I know subby is unfamiliar with SLC so perhaps it's unfair to talk specifically about that (maybe not).
Where else has the Church spent $billions tackling one of Mormon Gods biggest priorities - urban blight?

[_moksha]

Something had to be done when Nordstrom's moved from the adjacent Crossroads Mall into a larger facility in the nearby Gateway Mall. Had some ultra-gross porno and liquor emporium moved into the empty space, well there goes the sanctity of the neighborhood. Some new and bold business venture needed to save the day and and that involved the one group in town that knows how to get things done!!!

Who else could plow through all the city red tape and come out with a mall rivaling the Dubai in cost? It is now the jewel of Main and South Temple.

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[_Bazooka]

Three cheers for Salt Lake City, Logan, and Provo (yes--you read that correctly) for beating out some of last year's tough contenders, like New York and Chicago, in the contest for the most toxic city in the nation. Though Utahns recently pat themselves on the back for passing the Indoor Clean Air Act to "protect Utahns and visitors to the state from exposure to the harmful effects of environmental tobacco smoke," its commitment to thinly regulated industry and cheap-at-any-cost power generation has paid off with entire weeks of epically polluted inversion in January that, according to Intermountain Medical Center's Dr. Nathan Dean, has the same effect on the entire Salt Lake Valley as "smoking two packs a day."

Living in Salt Lake City is in and of itself a breach of the Word of Wisdom!

Nightly News   |  January 25, 2013

Air pollution plagues Salt Lake City
A toxic layer of smog is hovering over Salt Lake City, Utah, triggering serious health problems and prompting doctors to declare a state of emergency. NBC’s Miguel Almaguer reports.
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Apologies to anyone who lives there, but, what a dump.