Chief Joseph and SargonII ties up Book of Mormon DNA

[_bomgeography]

The tablet is confirmed and dated from the old world.

[_bomgeography]

Its more than just that the star of Ashur is found on Chief joseph medicine bag and other Assyrian symbols are found in the nez pierce tribe.
And to add on top of the one of their founding dna markers closest genetic is located from the place that these symbols and tablet are from

[_SteelHead]

The tablet is confirmed and dated from the old world.

Reference?

[_Lemmie]

The tablet is confirmed and dated from the old world.

reference, please.

[_SteelHead]

See here is the fun bit about this claim. All of the references are oblique references to Dr. Robert Biggs of the University of Chicago having translated the tablet. There are no primary sources - none. The reference to a reference to a reference is likely made up. There is no documented instance of this tablet every actually having been inventoried in Chief Joseph's possession, nor any documentation where the chain of possession is confirmed, where the tablet is dated, etc. We have a picture of chief Joseph. A picture of a tablet claimed to have been in his possession. And a claimed bit where some known figure in the field is said to have translated it. 0 primary sources. 0 real evidence.

Even if he (Dr. Biggs) did translate the tablet in question, there is still 0 evidence actually tying it to Chief Joseph.

But BomGeo, please do tell................

Given the quality of the evidence that you are willing to accept, for pseudo historical claims that support your biases, I found an ancient record written on a bronze chariot hubcap, authorizing me being a direct descendent of Nephi of old, to offer you valuable swampland prime real estate in Louisiana.

[_bomgeography]

The tablet is confirmed and dated from the old world.

reference, please.

the Smithsonian did an article about the tablet in 1979

what ties Joseph to the tablet is dna and the star of Ashur and other Assyrian symbols the Nez pierce tribe have.

Lets not forget that the tribe of Mensah Lehi tribe was under Assyrian rule for over 100 years before they left for North America.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2BYkIp ... gzZUU/edit

[_SteelHead]

Like I said.... no primary references. Nothing that establishes the tablet actually belonged to Chief Joseph.

That will prove em!

[_Lemmie]

The tablet is confirmed and dated from the old world.

reference, please.

the Smithsonian did an article about the tablet in 1979

what ties Joseph to the tablet is dna and the star of Ashur and other Assyrian symbols the Nez pierce tribe have.

Lets not forget that the tribe of Mensah Lehi tribe was under Assyrian rule for over 100 years before they left for North America.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2BYkIp ... gzZUU/edit

from your 27 year old Smithsonian article:

It seems slightly more likely the tablet was simply mistakenly dated....that lone tablet wouldn't have been very convincing proof of the Indian-Near Eastern link.....So, no one really knows how or why this small archaeological item wound up at West Point.

So, the Smithsonian article did not confirm the dating, and does not have any verification for source.

It also does not mention dna. It also specifically states the opposite of your statement regarding the tablet providing a link to the tribes of Isreal, noting that even as a hoax, the tablet isn't convincing.

Your reference actively disproofs the theory you are using it for. As in most if not all of the threads you have started on Book of Mormon proof, your extreme lack of appropriate research methodology renders this entire discussion meaningless.

What is the point of giving a reference like this?

[Guest]

What is a Meldrumite supposed to do besides for point to references of extremely dubious quality and spin conjecture to support their faith?

Half quoted, out of context pseudo history is all they have left as the real sciences have left them gutted.

[_bomgeography]

The tablet is about 4000 years old. Extensive dna research at that time did not exist but its a proven fact the closes genetic link to native American haplo group x is iran. The Assyrian empire was also located in the Northwestern part of Iran

“We surveyed our Old World haplogroup X mtDNAs for the five diagnostic X2a mutations (table 2) and found a match only for the transition at np 12397 in a Nannagle X2* sequence from Iran. In a parsimony tree, this Iranian mtDNA would share a common ancestor with the Native American clade.”
(Origin and Diffusion of mtDNA haplogroup X, "