Bible verse by verse

The upper-crust forum for scholarly, polite, and respectful discussions only. Heavily moderated. Rated G.
Post Reply
_LittleNipper
_Emeritus
Posts: 4518
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:49 pm

Re: Bible verse by verse

Post by _LittleNipper »

1 John 1:1-10

The Word, that gives life! He existed at the start. We have heard Him --- seen him with our eyes. We have thought about Him ---- touched Him with our hands!

The life appeared, and we have seen it. We are testifying to it and announcing it to you — eternal life! He was with the Father, and He appeared to us.

What we have seen and heard, we are proclaiming to you; so that you might also have fellowship with us. Our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son, Jesus the Messiah.

We are writing these things so that our joy may be full.

And this is the message which we have heard from Him and proclaim to you: God is light, and there is no darkness in Him — none!

If we claim to have fellowship with Him while walking in the darkness, we are lying and not living in the truth.

But if we are walking in brilliance, as He is in the light, then we have fellowship with each other, and the blood of His Son Jesus purifies us from all sin.

If we claim not to sin, we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

If we acknowledge our sins, then, since he is trustworthy and just, he will forgive them and purify us from all such wrongdoing.

If we claim we have not been sinning, we are calling Him a liar, and His Word is not in us.

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 That which was from the beginning, that which we have heard, that which we have seen with our eyes, that which we did behold, and our hands did handle, concerning the Word of the Life --

2 and the Life was manifested, and we have seen, and do testify, and declare to you the Life, the age-during, which was with the Father, and was manifested to us --

3 that which we have seen and heard declare we to you, that ye also may have fellowship with us, and our fellowship [is] with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ;

4 and these things we write to you, that your joy may be full.

5 And this is the message that we have heard from Him, and announce to you, that God is light, and darkness in Him is not at all;

6 if we may say -- `we have fellowship with Him,' and in the darkness may walk -- we lie, and do not the truth;

7 and if in the light we may walk, as He is in the light -- we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son doth cleanse us from every sin;

8 if we may say -- `we have not sin,' ourselves we lead astray, and the truth is not in us;

9 if we may confess our sins, stedfast He is and righteous that He may forgive us the sins, and may cleanse us from every unrighteousness;

10 if we may say -- `we have not sinned,' a liar we make Him, and His word is not in us.
_LittleNipper
_Emeritus
Posts: 4518
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:49 pm

Re: Bible verse by verse

Post by _LittleNipper »

About the Author: JOHN
The Holy Spirit used John the apostle, whose name means Jehovah is gracious, to write the 3 short letters bearing his name. This would be the same man who also authored the fourth gospel.
He was the son of Zebedee and Salome (Mt. 4:21; 27:55-56; Mk. 15:40-41)
He and his brother James were fishermen with their father (Mk. 1:19-20)
He and James were called Boanerges or Sons of thunder by Christ because of their heated behavior at times (Mk. 3:17; cp. Lk. 9:53-54)
He was one of the 3 most intimate disciples of the Lord (Mt. 17:1ff; 26:37)
He was a close friend of Simon Peter
- first ones to arrive at the tomb (Jn. 20:2-8)
- suffered imprisonment together after healing a lame man (Acts 3 & 4)
- traveled together to Samaria after the gospel was preached (Acts 8:14-17)
He was one of the important men of the church in Jerusalem (Gal. 2:9)
From sources external to inspiration, we are told the following about John: Polycarp, Papias, & Justin Martyr, some of the early church fathers, often quoted from his writings
Polycarp and Papias were identified as pupils of John having writings dated as early as the 2nd century
John was eventually banished to the isle of Patmos by the Roman emperor Domitian, from where he received the visions and wrote The Revelation (cp. Rev. 1:9)
John returned to Ephesus to live out the rest of his life, from where he wrote these three epistles as well as the gospel that bears his name
There are archeological remains bearing his name in ruins of churches and shrines, and John outlived all the other apostles.
Last edited by Guest on Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:33 am, edited 1 time in total.
_huckelberry
_Emeritus
Posts: 4559
Joined: Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:29 am

Re: Bible verse by verse

Post by _huckelberry »

Maksutov wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Luke 23:9
Then he questioned with him in many words, but he answered him nothing.


Because Jesus didn't know the answers. :lol:

Maksutov,
In terms of usual story telling most people will understand the phrase to mean Jesus got tired of answering people who were just trifling with him to trip him up.

On the other hand I suppose your reading is possible. I know of no reason to think Jesus knew the answer to every question people might think of. I certainly do not think his normal human ignorance diminishes him.
_LittleNipper
_Emeritus
Posts: 4518
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:49 pm

Re: Bible verse by verse

Post by _LittleNipper »

huckelberry wrote:
Maksutov wrote:Because Jesus didn't know the answers. :lol:

Maksutov,
In terms of usual story telling most people will understand the phrase to mean Jesus got tired of answering people who were just trifling with him to trip him up.

On the other hand I suppose your reading is possible. I know of no reason to think Jesus knew the answer to every question people might think of. I certainly do not think his normal human ignorance diminishes him.


I will answer this with the reminder that the Bible reveals how surprised the Samaritan woman at the well was as Jesus revealed to her that He knew even her dark secrets. Jesus didn't answer Herod because Herod simply wanted a show ---- and Jesus was not interested in entertaining Herod's frivolity.
_huckelberry
_Emeritus
Posts: 4559
Joined: Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:29 am

Re: Bible verse by verse

Post by _huckelberry »

LittleNipper wrote:
huckelberry wrote:quote"Maksutov"
Because Jesus didn't know the answers. quote
Maksutov,
In terms of usual story telling most people will understand the phrase to mean Jesus got tired of answering people who were just trifling with him to trip him up.

On the other hand I suppose your reading is possible. I know of no reason to think Jesus knew the answer to every question people might think of. I certainly do not think his normal human ignorance diminishes him.


I will answer this with the reminder that the Bible reveals how surprised the Samaritan woman at the well was as Jesus revealed to her that He knew even her dark secrets. Jesus didn't answer Herod because Herod simply wanted a show ---- and Jesus was not interested in entertaining Herod's frivolity.

Nipper,
Your characterization of why Jesus did not pursue discussion with Herod makes good sense to my understanding.I do not doubt that it is the real reason.

On the other hand it is fundamental to my understanding of Jesus that he was the second person of the trinity made man. As true man he had to grow and learn as any other person. His relationship to his father gave him special knowledge and guidance for his mission such as you point out. That still leaves a world a stuff that as a human living a human life he had no knowledge of. There is no reason he would have known the servants of the emperor of China. There is all sorts of science knowledge which he did not have. He did however learn carpentry and would have been good at it I believe.
_LittleNipper
_Emeritus
Posts: 4518
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:49 pm

Re: Bible verse by verse

Post by _LittleNipper »

huckelberry wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:
I will answer this with the reminder that the Bible reveals how surprised the Samaritan woman at the well was as Jesus revealed to her that He knew even her dark secrets. Jesus didn't answer Herod because Herod simply wanted a show ---- and Jesus was not interested in entertaining Herod's frivolity.

Nipper,
Your characterization of why Jesus did not pursue discussion with Herod makes good sense to my understanding.I do not doubt that it is the real reason.

On the other hand it is fundamental to my understanding of Jesus that he was the second person of the trinity made man. As true man he had to grow and learn as any other person. His relationship to his father gave him special knowledge and guidance for his mission such as you point out. That still leaves a world a stuff that as a human living a human life he had no knowledge of. There is no reason he would have known the servants of the emperor of China. There is all sorts of science knowledge which he did not have. He did however learn carpentry and would have been good at it I believe.


Jesus did say that that only the Father knew when He (Jesus) would return. However, that was something specific to GOD's timing in the future and Jesus had not yet ascended into heaven. But Jesus did heal and raise the dead (so He had to understand the human body). Jesus also calmed the storms and walked on water (so He must have understood the material world to a great degree). Remember Satan took Jesus to a high place and showed Jesus the entire world. How this was done is anyone's guess, but I would imagine Christ was cognizant of everything. One must realize that much of science is based on educated guesses. Christ guessed at nothing. :ugeek:
_huckelberry
_Emeritus
Posts: 4559
Joined: Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:29 am

Re: Bible verse by verse

Post by _huckelberry »

LittleNipper wrote:
huckelberry wrote:Your characterization of why Jesus did not pursue discussion with Herod makes good sense to my understanding.I do not doubt that it is the real reason.

On the other hand it is fundamental to my understanding of Jesus that he was the second person of the trinity made man. As true man he had to grow and learn as any other person. His relationship to his father gave him special knowledge and guidance for his mission such as you point out. That still leaves a world a stuff that as a human living a human life he had no knowledge of. There is no reason he would have known the servants of the emperor of China. There is all sorts of science knowledge which he did not have. He did however learn carpentry and would have been good at it I believe.


Jesus did say that that only the Father knew when He (Jesus) would return. However, that was something specific to GOD's timing in the future and Jesus had not yet ascended into heaven. But Jesus did heal and raise the dead (so He had to understand the human body). Jesus also calmed the storms and walked on water (so He must have understood the material world to a great degree). Remember Satan took Jesus to a high place and showed Jesus the entire world. How this was done is anyone's guess, but I would imagine Christ was cognizant of everything. One must realize that much of science is based on educated guesses. Christ guessed at nothing. :ugeek:


Nipper, you point out that Jesus did not know the Fathers knowledge because he had not yet ascended into heaven. Remember the Father is not a second God. They are one God so if Jesus had to wait untill he ascended into heaven to know this it would mean he did not have direct access to his divine knowledge while he was living as a real human being on earth.

It surely is true that God knows all about science, how the body works , how the weather works and much much more. In Heaven Jesus would know all this. His understanding of science would make ours look childlike in comparison. But that is in heaven together with the Father.

On earth he shared our human life our frailty , all but sin. Sharing our humanness means sharing our struggle with ignorance. I cannot imaging Jesus sharing our experience if he had the sort of complete knowledge in this life as he has in heaven. One of the most important aspects of human life is our daily struggle with our immense ignorance. We must fight daily to learn and then must daily realize how much we do not know.
_Dr. Shades
_Emeritus
Posts: 14117
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:07 pm

Re: Bible verse by verse

Post by _Dr. Shades »

LittleNipper wrote:Remember Satan took Jesus to a high place and showed Jesus the entire world. How this was done is anyone's guess, . . .

It was done this way: The author of that passage thought the earth was flat.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"

--Louis Midgley
_LittleNipper
_Emeritus
Posts: 4518
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:49 pm

Re: Bible verse by verse

Post by _LittleNipper »

huckelberry wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Jesus did say that that only the Father knew when He (Jesus) would return. However, that was something specific to GOD's timing in the future and Jesus had not yet ascended into heaven. But Jesus did heal and raise the dead (so He had to understand the human body). Jesus also calmed the storms and walked on water (so He must have understood the material world to a great degree). Remember Satan took Jesus to a high place and showed Jesus the entire world. How this was done is anyone's guess, but I would imagine Christ was cognizant of everything. One must realize that much of science is based on educated guesses. Christ guessed at nothing. :ugeek:


Nipper, you point out that Jesus did not know the Fathers knowledge because he had not yet ascended into heaven. Remember the Father is not a second God. They are one God so if Jesus had to wait until he ascended into heaven to know this it would mean he did not have direct access to his divine knowledge while he was living as a real human being on earth.

It surely is true that God knows all about science, how the body works , how the weather works and much much more. In Heaven Jesus would know all this. His understanding of science would make ours look childlike in comparison. But that is in heaven together with the Father.

On earth he shared our human life our frailty , all but sin. Sharing our humanness means sharing our struggle with ignorance. I cannot imaging Jesus sharing our experience if he had the sort of complete knowledge in this life as he has in heaven. One of the most important aspects of human life is our daily struggle with our immense ignorance. We must fight daily to learn and then must daily realize how much we do not know.


I simply feel that Jesus was given every bit of information by the Father as Jesus needed the information perfectly. And I do believe Jesus emptied Himself and took on a human form to live among humanity perfectly. However Jesus was no less God but He did place Himself under subjection to the Father to perfection.
_LittleNipper
_Emeritus
Posts: 4518
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:49 pm

Re: Bible verse by verse

Post by _LittleNipper »

1 John 2:1-29

My children, I am writing these things to you so that you won’t sin. But if someone does sin, we have Jesus the Messiah, our advocate, who pleads our cause with the Father.

Also, He renders favorable our sins — and not only for ours, but also for those of the entire world.

The way we can be sure we know Him is if we are obeying his commands.

Anyone who says, “I know him,” but isn’t obeying his commands lies — the truth is not in him.

But if someone continues doing what He says, then truly love for God has been brought to its fruition in Him. This is how we are sure that we are united with Him.

A person who claims to be united with Him continually ought to conduct his life as His did.

Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command. Quite the contrary, it is an old command, which you have possessed from the start. The old command is the message which you have heard before.

Yet I am writing you a new command, and its reality is revealed both in Him and in you, because the darkness is fading away and true brilliance is already shining.

Anyone who claims to be in this light while hating his brother is still in the shadows.

The person who continues loving his brother stays in the light, and there is nothing in him to trip him up.

But the person who hates his brother is in the shadows — yes, he is walking in the dark, and he doesn’t know where he's headed, because that darkness has blinded his eyes.

Children, I am writing you because your sins have been forgiven for His sake.

Fathers, I am writing you because you have known Him who existed at the start. Young people, I am writing you because you have defied the Evil One.

Children, I have written you because you have known the Father. Fathers, I have written you because you have known Him who existed at the start. Young people, I have written you because you are strong, as the Word of God remains in you, and you have defied the Evil One.

Do not love the world or the possessions of the world. If someone loves the world, then love for the Father is not in him;

because all the things of the world — the desires of the old nature, the desires of the eyes, and the pretensions of life — are not from the Father but from the world.

And the world is fading away, along with its desires. But whoever does God’s will remains forever.

Children, this is the Last Hour. You have heard that an Anti-Messiah is coming. And in fact, many anti-Messiahs have sprouted up now — which is how we know that this is the Last Hour.

They departed from us, but they weren’t part of us; for had they been part of us, they would have remained with us.

But you have received the Messiah’s anointing from the Holy One, and you realize this.

It is not because you don’t know the truth that I have written to you, but because you do know it, and because no lie originates in the truth.

Who is a liar at all, if not the person who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? Such a person is an anti-Messiah — he is denying the Father and the Son.

Everyone who denies the Son is also without the Father, but the person who acknowledges the Son has the Father as also.

Let what you heard from the start stay in you. If what you heard from the beginning remains in you, you will also remain united with both the Son and the Father.

And this is what he has promised us: eternal life.

I have written you these things concerning people who are attempting to deceive you.

As for you, the Messianic anointing you received from the Father remains in you, so that you have no need for anyone else's instruction. Quite the contrary, as his Messianic anointing continues to teach you about all things, and is true, not pretend, so, just as He instructed you, remain united with Him.

And now, children, remain united with Him; so that when He appears, we may have confidence and not shrink back from Him in shame at His arrival.

If you know that He is righteous, you should also realize that he is the Father of everyone who does what is right.


Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 My little children, these things I write to you, that ye may not sin: and if any one may sin, an advocate we have with the Father, Jesus Christ, a righteous one,

2 and he -- he is a propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the whole world,

3 and in this we know that we have known him, if his commands we may keep;

4 he who is saying, `I have known him,' and his command is not keeping, a liar he is, and in him the truth is not;

5 and whoever may keep his word, truly in him the love of God hath been perfected; in this we know that in him we are.

6 He who is saying in him he doth remain, ought according as he walked also himself so to walk.

7 Brethren, a new command I write not to you, but an old command, that ye had from the beginning -- the old command is the word that ye heard from the beginning;

8 again, a new command I write to you, which thing is true in him and in you, because the darkness doth pass away, and the true light doth now shine;

9 he who is saying, in the light he is, and his brother is hating, in the darkness he is till now;

10 he who is loving his brother, in the light he doth remain, and a stumbling-block in him there is not;

11 and he who is hating his brother, in the darkness he is, and in the darkness he doth walk, and he hath not known whither he doth go, because the darkness did blind his eyes.

12 I write to you, little children, because the sins have been forgiven you through his name;

13 I write to you, fathers, because ye have known him who [is] from the beginning; I write to you, young men, because ye have overcome the evil. I write to you, little youths, because ye have known the Father:

14 I did write to you, fathers, because ye have known him who [is] from the beginning; I did write to you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God in you doth remain, and ye have overcome the evil.

15 Love not ye the world, nor the things in the world; if any one doth love the world, the love of the Father is not in him,

16 because all that [is] in the world -- the desire of the flesh, and the desire of the eyes, and the ostentation of the life -- is not of the Father, but of the world,

17 and the world doth pass away, and the desire of it, and he who is doing the will of God, he doth remain -- to the age.

18 Little youths, it is the last hour; and even as ye heard that the antichrist doth come, even now antichrists have become many -- whence we know that it is the last hour;

19 out of us they went forth, but they were not of us, for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but -- that they might be manifested that they are not all of us.

20 And ye have an anointing from the Holy One, and have known all things;


21 I did not write to you because ye have not known the truth, but because ye have known it, and because no lie is of the truth.

22 Who is the liar, except he who is denying that Jesus is the Christ? this one is the antichrist who is denying the Father and the Son;

23 every one who is denying the Son, neither hath he the Father, [he who is confessing the Son hath the Father also.]

24 Ye, then, that which ye heard from the beginning, in you let it remain; if in you may remain that which from the beginning ye did hear, ye also in the Son and in the Father shall remain,

25 and this is the promise that He did promise us -- the life the age-during.

26 These things I did write to you concerning those leading you astray;

27 and you, the anointing that ye did receive from him, in you it doth remain, and ye have no need that any one may teach you, but as the same anointing doth teach you concerning all, and is true, and is not a lie, and even as was taught you, ye shall remain in him.

28 And now, little children, remain in him, that when he may be manifested, we may have boldness, and may not be ashamed before him, in his presence;

29 if ye know that he is righteous, know ye that every one doing the righteousness, of him hath been begotten.
Post Reply