Answers to Creationist Attacks on C-14 Dating

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Philo Sofee wrote:I thought Society had sunk so low because of their belief in God. All they had to go on was we don't know but God Did It. Little did they know but that doesn't explain anything to them about anything. Galileo in that regard was the savior of humanity for getting us to use our brains again.


Why do you sin? What is sin? What is salvation? What happens if one isn't saved? What must one do to be saved? Who is Jesus? What is the Messiah? Where was the Savior to be born? To what tribe was the Savior to be born? What did the Savior have to do? Why did he do this?

Here are just a few questions. What does science have to say? :ugeek:
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LittleNipper wrote:
Philo Sofee wrote:I thought Society had sunk so low because of their belief in God. All they had to go on was we don't know but God Did It. Little did they know but that doesn't explain anything to them about anything. Galileo in that regard was the savior of humanity for getting us to use our brains again.


Why do you sin? What is sin? What is salvation? What happens if one isn't saved? What must one do to be saved? Who is Jesus? What is the Messiah? Where was the Savior to be born? To what tribe was the Savior to be born? What did the Savior have to do? Why did he do this?

Here are just a few questions. What does science have to say? :ugeek:


Those are all internal religious concepts. They are no more real than arguing about bodhisattvas and fairies. Science says about them like it does about your theo-stuff: it's all in your head.

You are the person of one book Aquinas warned us about. :wink:
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LittleNipper wrote:
Why do you sin? What is sin? What is salvation? What happens if one isn't saved? What must one do to be saved? Who is Jesus? What is the Messiah? Where was the Savior to be born? To what tribe was the Savior to be born? What did the Savior have to do? Why did he do this?

Here are just a few questions. What does science have to say? :ugeek:


Science says nothing about those subjects. Individual scientists can have any beliefs about them they want.
SEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJpYUxRL_3U
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LittleNipper wrote:
Philo Sofee wrote:I thought Society had sunk so low because of their belief in God. All they had to go on was we don't know but God Did It. Little did they know but that doesn't explain anything to them about anything. Galileo in that regard was the savior of humanity for getting us to use our brains again.


Why do you sin? What is sin? What is salvation? What happens if one isn't saved? What must one do to be saved? Who is Jesus? What is the Messiah? Where was the Savior to be born? To what tribe was the Savior to be born? What did the Savior have to do? Why did he do this?

Here are just a few questions. What does science have to say? :ugeek:


Sin is a human religion invention in order to control people. They create an imaginary problem, and then convince others their imaginary solution is what you need.
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Philo Sofee wrote:Sin is a human religion invention in order to control people. They create an imaginary problem, and then convince others their imaginary solution is what you need.

like the caring boss:
what? don't i know the problems of my underlings? sith i make those for them!
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LittleNipper wrote:
Why do you sin? What is sin? What is salvation? What happens if one isn't saved? What must one do to be saved? Who is Jesus? What is the Messiah? Where was the Savior to be born? To what tribe was the Savior to be born? What did the Savior have to do? Why did he do this?

Here are just a few questions. What does science have to say? :ugeek:


Science says nothing about those subjects. Individual scientists can have any beliefs about them they want.
SEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJpYUxRL_3U


So, clearly science doesn't hold all the answers. And clearly the Bible does answer these questions for which science has no answers. And clearly the Bible is esteemed by Muslims, Buddhists, Hindi and Christians. The religious are hardly clueless; however, many get hung up on works ---- as do some scientists.
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Philo Sofee wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Why do you sin? What is sin? What is salvation? What happens if one isn't saved? What must one do to be saved? Who is Jesus? What is the Messiah? Where was the Savior to be born? To what tribe was the Savior to be born? What did the Savior have to do? Why did he do this?

Here are just a few questions. What does science have to say? :ugeek:


Sin is a human religion invention in order to control people. They create an imaginary problem, and then convince others their imaginary solution is what you need.
Whether you wish to admit it or not, you are being manipulated and controlled by science everyday. You are being told what to think, how to communicate, how to interact, and what is most important for man to do to continue living on this earth according to "scientific" studies/research.

One is either led by the Spiritual or the material. You are under the control of the material.

Tell me, how was what Hitler accomplished for the Jews any different than what Oppenheimer accomplished for the Japanese --------- if not for considerations of sin?
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Philo Sofee wrote:
Sin is a human religion invention in order to control people. They create an imaginary problem, and then convince others their imaginary solution is what you need.

Philo Sofee
I have long, as long as I can remember, though sin was some form of abuse of neighbors or preparation for such abuse. It would be as much a concrete, real, this world problem as any. It is a problem the world suffers seriously from and to which we would like more and better answers. It seems like a problem that touches on both science and religion.

In that view however it may be seen that pride in ones religion may be a sin. Failure to respect other people with different views about religion would also be sin. There have been religious leaders deeply lost in sin.
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LittleNipper wrote:
So, clearly science doesn't hold all the answers. And clearly the Bible does answer these questions for which science has no answers. And clearly the Bible is esteemed by Muslims, Buddhists, Hindi and Christians. The religious are hardly clueless; however, many get hung up on works ---- as do some scientists.


Science never claims to hold all the answers.

You need to be more specific in what you claim the Bible claims to answer.

Jews only claim part of the Old Testament. Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet. Buddhists have no personal God. Hindu's have thousands of manifestations of God. Christians are divided as to what they accept as Scripture. The Catholic Bible is much bigger that the Protestant one.

I never said the religious are clueless. About 40% of all American scientists are religious.

Science is only about what works. IE; If the most scientifically advanced device ever made, the computer you are using right now didn't work, you'd throw it out.
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LittleNipper wrote:
Tell me, how was what Hitler accomplished for the Jews any different than what Oppenheimer accomplished for the Japanese --------- if not for considerations of sin?


Wow. You can't see the difference? You should talk to some people who survived Pearl Harbor and the Holocaust. Talk to the Chinese--and Russians and Americans--who were experimented on by Unit 731. Get your head out of the Bible, it's blinding you. :rolleyes:
"God" is the original deus ex machina. --Maksutov
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