Did we have a pre-premortal existence?

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Re: Did we have a pre-premortal existence?

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gdemetz wrote:If you add up the genealogical records from the KJV of the Bible, it totals 4004 years from the fall of Adam to the birth of Christ. However, if you do the same thing to the Septuagint, it does not agree. So, who can say exactly when, even according to our calender, when the seventh seal and THE 1000 YEAR MILLENNIUM should begin. However, it is obvious from the events described in the Book of Revelation that the sixth seal has not ended yet as we have not yet had the great hail or the return of the lost tribes which are mentioned as events during the sixth seal!


You're a Mormon right?
That means that you believe Adam Fell circa 4,000 bc and that the flood happened circa 2,300 bc. If you don't believe those things perhaps you need to counsel with you Bishop as you are on the road to Apostasy.
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gdemetz wrote:I will also try to post this again! Drifting, there is no dependable and exact record which we can depend upon for a total time line from the fall of Adam until now. If you add up the Biblical genealogy, it adds up in the KJV to 4004 years from the fall of Adam to the birth of Christ. However, the Greek Septuagint does not agree with that. Apparently there has been a error, or several errors in the chronology, which could put the time frame off possibly a generation or more. However, from the account in Revelation, the hail and other events mentioned in the 6th seal (undoubtedly near the end of the 6th seal) have not occurred yet.


Quick, you need to inform Church Headquarters before they do any more damage. They are, erroneously according to you, teaching students that the Fall of Adam was a literal event taking place 4,000 bc and that the Flood was a literal event that took place 1,700 years after the Fall of Adam.
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SteelHead wrote:How do you know I have an incorrect view of nature of god, and that the error is not in your understanding?

Exu told me I understand his nature petty well. He also says he pretends to be Jehovah all the time, just to sow discord.

That is how he rolls.


You are determining your own values and judgments. God says that we should not do that. Judge not lest ye be judged. The Bible embraces my beliefs. Satan sows discord.
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Drifting, of course, it was a literal event as was the flood. However, I am stating that the 4000 BC date is not an exact date!
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Mktavish wrote:Makes ya wonder what they wrote down for the year before Christ. And does anybody now not use the AD year time line?


I still use it.

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gdemetz wrote:Drifting, of course, it was a literal event as was the flood. However, I am stating that the 4000 BC date is not an exact date!


So you are significantly disagreeing with the official Church position on the chronology of Adam and the Flood.

When (century/era) do you believe Adam fell?

Also, you have stated that most of the Bible is literal. I therefore assume that you believe the chronologieredo trained therein are literal too?
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Drifting, I am not saying that the date was centuries off. I am merely stating that it is not exact. That's why the LDS Bible chronology simply puts 4000 AD, but that is an approximate and not an exact date.
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