Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

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Re: Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

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subgenius wrote:
Drifting wrote:No wonder you (Mormonism) baptised him into the fold, posthumously obviously...

Yes, so there is hope in knowing that even you will be given a chance to repent


No need. I have a temple marriage so, according to D&C132:26 I have a guaranteed space there, regardless of repentance or not.
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LittleNipper wrote:Remember the Democratic Party was tied to the KKK even during the 1960's at the very least. They are certainly promoting the secularization of America, the no holds barred of abortion on demand, continued wage increases for government officials, professional politicians (term after term after term), the mentality that Big Brother is the key to success, government controlled education is best, the notion that the poor are aways poor through no fault of their own, social warefare will end poverty, marriage is not about family building and strong commitment --- but tax incentives and personal preferences.... A vote for Obama is correct thinking ---- but a vote against Obama is racist driven.

Some things never change. :rolleyes:


Why don't you stick to fictional things you don't know about. And explain how Noah and his trained monkeys could feed and water 700+ animals per day on fictional food.
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Drifting wrote:
subgenius wrote:Yes, so there is hope in knowing that even you will be given a chance to repent


No need. I have a temple marriage so, according to D&C132:26 I have a guaranteed space there, regardless of repentance or not.

...i am leaning towards the notion that shedding innocent blood is in your future.
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subgenius wrote:...i am leaning towards the notion that shedding innocent blood is in your future.


Your Holy Spirit is off, you should get it looked at.
It's a large Rioja that I'm about to slaughter...
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subgenius wrote:...i am leaning towards the notion that shedding innocent blood is in your future.


You are saying this about a guy who argues even if God tells you to kill someone you shouldn't. What does that mean for people like you who thinks one should kill if they thinks God's tells them to.
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Bond James Bond wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Remember the Democratic Party was tied to the KKK even during the 1960's at the very least. They are certainly promoting the secularization of America, the no holds barred of abortion on demand, continued wage increases for government officials, professional politicians (term after term after term), the mentality that Big Brother is the key to success, government controlled education is best, the notion that the poor are aways poor through no fault of their own, social warefare will end poverty, marriage is not about family building and strong commitment --- but tax incentives and personal preferences.... A vote for Obama is correct thinking ---- but a vote against Obama is racist driven.

Some things never change. :rolleyes:


Why don't you stick to fictional things you don't know about. And explain how Noah and his trained monkeys could feed and water 700+ animals per day on fictional food.

Some things never change, without the Savior.
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Themis wrote:
subgenius wrote:...i am leaning towards the notion that shedding innocent blood is in your future.


You are saying this about a guy who argues even if God tells you to kill someone you shouldn't.

no, about a guy who admittedly has no basis for morality beyond hedonism.

Themis wrote: What does that mean for people like you who thinks one should kill if they thinks God's tells them to.

what does what mean?
If God instructs whatever then you are best to follow...pretty simple.
Funny how people who post like yours seem to have so much issue against following God but they have little resistance against follow Satan.
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LittleNipper wrote:Some things never change, without the Savior.


In other words you can't.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07

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Re: Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

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subgenius wrote:no, about a guy who admittedly has no basis for morality beyond hedonism.



I think you are lying yet again, so CFR.

what does what mean?
If God instructs whatever then you are best to follow...pretty simple.


Which supports that you are the one who might end up killing the innocent.

Funny how people who post like yours seem to have so much issue against following God but they have little resistance against follow Satan.


I don't follow either, because I at least realize they are both fictional. At least the christian versions.
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Re: Why I don't believe the story of the Great Flood...

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subgenius wrote:
Themis wrote:What does that mean for people like you who thinks one should kill if they thinks God's tells them to.

what does what mean?If God instructs whatever then you are best to follow...pretty simple.

So, if you thought God told you to kill someone, you would act the same way that Ron and Dan Lafferty did, who insist that God told them to kill their sister-in-law, Brenda Lafferty and her 15 month old daughter, Erica? Ron was executed for that crime, and Dan (whose cell-mate is Mark Hoffman, by the way) is serving out a life sentence for the same crime--still convinced that he was only carrying out the will of God. If that is the way you feel, I fervently hope you don't live anywhere near me!

Of course I realize that you don't believe any more than I do that God really commanded them to commit that crime, but they were adamantly convinced of it. Would you be any more likely than they to question the real source of a "commandment from God" to kill someone, however strong that prompting seemed to be?

Nothing would cause me to question my own sanity more than a strong "prompting or revelation from God" (or at least question the real source of the prompting) to kill someone in cold blood like (for example) Nephi killed Laban. I would rather God killed me than obey such a prompting or revelation.

If God really wants someone dead, he had better do the deed himself. I won't do it for him--nor would I believe it was really God's desire, unless he does it himself!
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