The Nehor wrote:marg wrote:Nehor, JAK asked you questions about your claims. To be taken seriously, you have the burden to respond with something greater than vague rather meaningless responses, in order to warrant that your claims have some validity.
JAK has been attempting to take you seriously but that's hard to do. Rather than appreciate this you've not responded with intellectual honesty.
Of course your question on JAK's mental state was not addressed. It's called an ad hominem fallacy. It's employed as a diversionary tactic to divert attention away from the main argument at hand, in this case your claims to God, and onto something else, in this case the person you are in discussion with.
It's interesting that YOU recognize the claim of "seeing dead people is evidence for God" is a joke, but you fail to recognize the "joke" in the rest of your claims which you do take seriously.
Why? In the past I've described the Spirit in detail. JAK called it emotional response. Why share it again so I can be villified. My question on JAK's mental state was not an irrelevant tangent. If for some reason he is incapable of having the same experiences as mine that would make him a very biased source. Akin to a blind man trying to share his personal hatred of the color orange. I will assume you're evasion is due to my guess being correct and that JAK can have no say in matters he is unable to experience unless he can avoid evading the point and answer it.
Seeing dead people is evidence for God. While saying it that way was a joke it is also true. Refute away. How did I see dead people? No drugs, no altered emotional state, no extreme tiredness. Have fun. As evidence for my claim I cite my own testimony above. To show that I am not unique I recommend reading the accounts of Peter, James, John, Joseph Smith, Wilford Woodruff, and that guy who saw his dead wife and child while crossing the plains.
By the way, I like the name, "Nehor the Evader". Has a great sound to it. Might ask Shades to make that my name.
Nehor stated:
In the past I've described the Spirit in detail.
A false statement. If accurate, link me directly to it or quote/restate.
Or, I suppose this is a joke. Ha, Ha.
Nehor stated:
JAK called it emotional response.
False. I asked you to distinguish between emotion and your claim of spiritual. And you admitted that you could not do it.
Nehor stated:
My question on JAK's mental state was not an irrelevant tangent. If for some reason he is incapable of having the same experiences as mine that would make him a very biased source. Akin to a blind man trying to share his personal hatred of the color orange. I will assume you're evasion is due to my guess being correct and that JAK can have no say in matters he is unable to experience unless he can avoid evading the point and answer it.
More joke I assume since you said your entire post was a joke earlier.
If not, it’s irrelevant to the issues at hand. You make claims and fail to provide any evidential support for the claims. A joke or a diversionary tactic -- it makes no difference.
The burden of proof for your claims lies with YOU. You offer nothing and admit you cannot offer clear, transparent, open to objective review evidence for your claims.
Claims absent reasoned evidence are without merit.
Nehor stated:
Seeing dead people is evidence for God. While saying it that way was a joke it is also true.
A self-contradictory statement. I asked you directly about the claim, and your response was to say you laughed all the way through because your post was a joke.
Let’s see you demonstrate how you are sincere in your posts.
Nehor stated:
No drugs, no altered emotional state, no extreme tiredness. Have fun.
A defense against no challenge. No one attempted to claim that you were on “drugs” etc. It’s an irrelevant sentence. Or, Oh I see, it’s another joke. Ha, Ha, Ha. Great humor, Nehor. We are having “fun.”
Nehor stated:
As evidence for my claim I cite my own testimony above.
GM tested GM cars against the competition and found GM cars superior to the competition.
Ha, Ha, Ha. More humor, Nehor. You are your own support for your own claim. Ha, Ha, Ha. That is such a good joke, Nehor. You are so funny!
Nehor stated:
To show that I am not unique I recommend reading the accounts of Peter, James, John, Joseph Smith, Wilford Woodruff, and that guy who saw his dead wife and child while crossing the plains.
Irrelevant to the questions before you. Parroting religious myth is no help to you. No transparent, objective review and confirmation -- just a claim absent evidence. Oh, I forgot, you’re joking. Ha, Ha, Ha. I get it now -- you made a funny. I must lighten up as you demonstrate your incapability to address a call for evidence.
This is no evidence, it's religious propaganda. But I’m sure it’s funny, so I’ll just keep laughing. I'll keep you company laughing.
Nehor stated:
By the way, I like the name, "Nehor the Evader". Has a great sound to it. Might ask Shades to make that my name.
Whatever whimsical, mindless metaphor that flips your feet, Nehor.
Ha, Ha, Ha. Maybe you could be called the funniest man on the bb -- (well man is an overstatement).
You’re such a good laugh.
JAK