Mormon History and Mormon Belief

[_Corpsegrinder]

So I will just thank you for your service to your country, and let you know that it never got as high as 127 while I was at Yuma (but I have seen it 130 Degrees F plus at Camp Doha in Kuwait - again while involved with M1 tanks).
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by the way, if you ever have to go to battle in the the Kingdom or Kuwait, I hope it is in an M1. In the open desert, the Striker's "dash and cover" doctrine becomes highly theoretical.

Your thanks means a lot. I appreciate it. You have my thanks as well.
Yeah, Yuma’s hot but Doha’s hotter. That place sucks.
And yeah, being in a Stryker is like being in a Sherman tank in the Ardennes in 1944.

Okay, so you got to maintain these charges. Probably a Haleburten contract. Imagine the cost!
The evidence that they are pre-wired is because 9-11 shows precisely that. Perhaps insurance companies have required it to protect buildings from one another. What threatens an eighty storied building more than the 120 storied building next door?

Interesting. Fair enough. Thanks, Nightlion.

[_subgenius]

.... The main difference between places like Yuma and Barstow, as compared to places like Kuwait and Eastern Saudi Arabia, is the humidity.

...and the returning gunfire

[_subgenius]

....What threatens an eighty storied building more than the 120 storied building next door?

an airplane full of fuel?
never heard of insurance having an interest in the building next door...especially with municipal requirements for "clear sky" setbacks, etc.

[_DrW]

.... The main difference between places like Yuma and Barstow, as compared to places like Kuwait and Eastern Saudi Arabia, is the humidity.

...and the returning gunfire

Now and again - that too.

[_moksha]

Two words: Global warming.

It is important to note two things:

1. There is no conclusive proof that this warming is due to either green house emissions or hot air coming from Rush Limbaugh, despite the claims by those who oppose creationism.

2. This could be a naturally occurring phenomena not involving Mr. Limbaugh.

Now, back to Kuwait temperatures and Mormon beliefs.

[_Pollypinks]

Are we now questioning global warming, because all nice and conservative people believe George Bush?

[_Socrates]

God did not pronounce all other faiths as false.

Simon, here is what it says in the canonised version of the First Vision:
I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt;
(underlining is mine)

Care to retract your claim Simon?

There you go again, jon, reading with your brain instead of your 'spiritual eyes.' That Personage that said those things was Satan, hanging around after the darkness that overcame Joseph Smith, Jr. just moments before a shaft of light, brighter than the noon day sun, came into the grove. See what one's 'spiritual eyes' will show him or her? How to twist things out of shape.

Also, the cardinal rule with apologists is never to let yourself be hung up by the facts. Mr. Belmont will avoid your post like the plague. You caught him red-handed either lying or showing that his knowledge of Mormonism is inferior to that of a couple of critics. No wiggle room for him there.

[_Buffalo]

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There you go again, jon, reading with your brain instead of your 'spiritual eyes.' That Personage that said those things was Satan, hanging around after the darkness that overcame Joseph Smith, Jr. just moments before a shaft of light, brighter than the noon day sun, came into the grove. See what one's 'spiritual eyes' will show him or her? How to twist things out of shape.

Also, the cardinal rule with apologists is never to let yourself be hung up by the facts. Mr. Belmont will avoid your post like the plague. You caught him red-handed either lying or showing that his knowledge of Mormonism is inferior to that of a couple of critics. No wiggle room for him there.

Sad but true.

[_Simon Belmont]

Standard anti-Mormon dogma

I'm not going to explain this to you again, jon, as it has been explained to you over and over again and never sinks in.

But that doesn't matter, does it? I have already said that I will hypothetically grant that there was one attack upon the traditional Protestantism of Joseph Smith's day. So, in your mind, the response to that one single event should be 180 years of anti-Mormonism, complete with murders, massacres, assassinations, and militant fools harassing conference-goers?

That is one sick and twisted position to take, jon.

Care to retract your claim Simon?

I will not. Mostly because I am right.

There you go again, jon, reading with your brain instead of your 'spiritual eyes.' That Personage that said those things was Satan, hanging around after the darkness that overcame Joseph Smith, Jr. just moments before a shaft of light, brighter than the noon day sun, came into the grove. See what one's 'spiritual eyes' will show him or her? How to twist things out of shape.

When you want to actually address my points, and cease acting like a child, please let me know.

Also, the cardinal rule with apologists is never to let yourself be hung up by the facts. Mr. Belmont will avoid your post like the plague. You caught him red-handed either lying or showing that his knowledge of Mormonism is inferior to that of a couple of critics. No wiggle room for him there.

Whatever you believe apologists do, critics have done first. The facts are not something critics have ever recognized.

[_Equality]

The facts are not something critics have ever recognized.

Or, in other words, "If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?"*

Down is up, up is down, black is white, white black. Over is under, above below, tall short, fat thin in the wonderland inhabited by Simon and his fellow mopes, where, apparently, it is the critics who fail to recognize facts and the Mormon faithful who embrace them. I don't know how I cannot yet fail to be astonished at some of the things this fellow posts here. It really is jaw-dropping in its sheer audacity.


*Lewis Carroll