God's Promise to Send Elijah before the Second Coming

[_Drifting]

Drifting, while their churches are stagnating. The Church of Jesus Christ of LDS continues to grow, and one day it will fill the whole earth as Daniel prophesied!

I guess Islam must be the true Church by this type of a measure....

Mormon's account for less than 0.2% of the world's population and the proportion is shrinking.
(that's all claimed Mormon members regardless of activity level and resignation status and mortality status)

[_Darth J]

I've read all that, and I'm sure that Campbell, Joseph Smith, as well as all those translators knew that also, but they were alos aware that John the Baptist was not Elijah, so they knew that it meant much more than you guys can apparently see!

Gdemetz, do you know what a metaphor is?

Do you think maybe Jesus and/or the apostles knew what a metaphor is?

Like, say, referring to John the Baptist as Elijah?

[_Nomomo]

It is recorded in the 110th section of the D&C where Elijah fulfills that promise by his appearing in the Kirtland temple on April 3, 1836..

Are you claiming that Elijah need only to appear in a vision to Joseph and Oliver to fulfilll the the promise and that for Elijah to actually appear in normal reality to fulfill the promise is not required?

gdemetz, am still interested in your response to my question.

[_Themis]

I'm sorry they are deceived.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL Yes there experience is self delusion, but then you won't know any better then they that your experience is delusion as well. Now I am not saying you didn't have the feelings you did, but I do think the body is more then fully capable of creating such. It can even create much better ones as well. Once we have then we tend to interpret them based on what we want to believe. FLDS do with theirs as do LDS with theirs. The same can be found in most religions.

[_madeleine]

This is something that apostate Christendom, among many other things, seemed to forget all about. It's the last verses in the Old Testament where God promises to send Elijah back to the earth prior to that "great and dreadful day of the Lord," or the second coming of Christ. It is recorded in the 110th section of the D&C where Elijah fulfills that promise by his appearing in the Kirtland temple on April 3, 1836. I have just been wondering what apostate Christendom thinks of that, or even if they do think of that. Maybe they are still waiting for him to come to them. Anyhow, I hope that they are not holding their breath.

hello, one thing the wannabe Christians forget all about is that Jesus states quite clearly that John the Baptist is the fulfillment of this prophecy.

[_Drifting]

This is something that apostate Christendom, among many other things, seemed to forget all about. It's the last verses in the Old Testament where God promises to send Elijah back to the earth prior to that "great and dreadful day of the Lord," or the second coming of Christ. It is recorded in the 110th section of the D&C where Elijah fulfills that promise by his appearing in the Kirtland temple on April 3, 1836. I have just been wondering what apostate Christendom thinks of that, or even if they do think of that. Maybe they are still waiting for him to come to them. Anyhow, I hope that they are not holding their breath.

hello, one thing the wannabe Christians forget all about is that Jesus states quite clearly that John the Baptist is the fulfillment of this prophecy.

Hello, please can you quote where He does that?

[_madeleine]

Hello, please can you quote where He does that?

Mt 11:10-15

10For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

11Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

12And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

13For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

14And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

15He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

also prophesied to Zacharias by the Angel Gabriel:

13But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.

14And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.

15For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

16And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.

17And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

[_gdemetz]

Good job Madeleine! This criticism by the anti's reminds me of the criticisms for the statement in Alma that Christ was born at Jerusalem. The anti's were saying that Joseph Smith made a big mistake, and that he didn't even know that Christ was born in Bethlehem! More anti hogwash! Later writings which surfaced showed them!!!

[_SteelHead]

Gd,
She is not furthering your argument, rather showing that the prophecy was already fulfilled in the form of John the Baptizer.

[_gdemetz]

You missed the point. That was only one fulfillment. Elias was applied to John, but it has a much broader meaning. This can be seen in verse 17.