Marlin K Jensen: Large numbers NOT apostatizing

[_Runtu]

You have to be joking.

I see you haven't met bcspace yet. LOL

[_bcspace]

So no, a Democrat should not be allowed a TR. However, the current stance is to allow the wheat and the tares grow together.

You have to be joking.

Dead serious. A Democrat, in virtually every way, is in diametric opposition to the Church on critical doctrines.

And why can the same thing not be said about the republican party?

Because there is nothing in the Republican modus operandi that is in opposition to the Church. An analog would be free market capitalism (Republicans) vs. Socialism (Democrats).

Free market capitalism is neutral; the individual brings the good or evil with them in keeping with 2 Nephi 2. Socialism is intrinsically evil as it forces one to obey ala Satan's plan and in opposition to the official doctrine on the Law of Consecration which can only swim in free market capitalism.

And then there's the moral issues of homosexuality, abortion, etc.

Now having said that, I am not a Republican. I am an anti Democrat, a conservative and a classical liberal (what conservatives used to be called). There are other parties that are good and bad as well. If the parties change or their fortunes change, I will change in order to best support that which is not in opposition to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

[_SteelHead]

How is anyone who pays taxes to the US government then worthy to get a recommend by your strict interpretation of that question?

[_bcspace]

How is anyone who pays taxes to the US government then worthy to get a recommend by your strict interpretation of that question?

Because they have no individual control as to how the money is spent economically (for socialist or entitlement policies). Obviously, they also have no control over things such as military spending etc. However, the current spate of wars does not appear to be in opposition to the Gospel (see Hinkley's War and Peace Ensign article) and neither is national defense in general.

But it is socialism/entitlement that is in opposition to the Gospel so anyone who supports/votes for that is in opposition. Even Democrats who claim to be free market are not absolved because, by lending their support to the Democratic Party, they fall under the Romans 1:32 principle.

[_Tobin]

You have to be joking.

Dead serious. A Democrat, in virtually every way, is in diametric opposition to the Church on critical doctrines.

I really don't see how one's politicial affliations have anything to do with their spiritual worthiness? However, I would think of all the political parties, being Democrat is probably most akin to how Mormons should be. They should be for the poor and the little guy. They should be for protecting the earth and keeping it clean and unpolluted and being good stewards. And being for freewill and free choice. If political affiliations were to have anything to with the church (which I'm not saying they do), I would think being a Democrat would be in the best traditions of being a Mormon.

[_SteelHead]

But by providing financial support, in the form of taxes, they are supporting a group (the US government) that supports abortion, socialism etc etc.

The only honest answer then is yes, whether voluntary or not.

BC, you need to turn in your recommend.

[_bcspace]

Dead serious. A Democrat, in virtually every way, is in diametric opposition to the Church on critical doctrines.

I really don't see how one's politicial affliations have anything to do with their spiritual worthiness?

Political affiliation is a direct outward measurement of one's inward spirituality. For example, if one supports the homosexual lifestyle choice and homosexual marriage as legitimate, how is that not connected to one's acceptance or non acceptance of LDS doctrine?

However, I would think of all the political parties, being Democrat is probably most akin to how Mormons should be. They should be for the poor and the little guy. They should be for protecting the earth and keeping it clean and unpolluted and being good stewards.

Republicans are for that too. It is modus operandi that is the problem. The modus operadi of the Democrats is Satan's plan, a removal of agency, and enslavement and a false compassion.

And being for freewill and free choice. If political affiliations were to have anything to with the church (which I'm not saying they do), I would think being a Democrat would be in the best traditions of being a Mormon.

No, being a Democrat violates LDS doctrine and the Gospel of Jesus Christ in almost every way in both letter and spirit. Socialism, feminism, environmentalism, pacifism, secular humanism, etc. etc.

[_bcspace]

But by providing financial support, in the form of taxes, they are supporting a group (the US government) that supports abortion, socialism etc etc.

To quote my previous post on the matter (which you have not addressed):

Because they have no individual control as to how the money is spent

[_SteelHead]

Oh by the way.

Bc meet Tobin.
Tobin .... BC.

Hilarity is sure to ensue.

[_SteelHead]

But by providing financial support, in the form of taxes, they are supporting a group (the US government) that supports abortion, socialism etc etc.

To quote my previous post on the matter (which you have not addressed):

Because they have no individual control as to how the money is spent

Does not matter, the question does not ask that. If we are strictly going to interpret it, then let's be strict.