bcspace wrote:I'm not talking about lessons. I'm talking about (as I'm sure was originally intended) people asking the questions in class or going the bishop or stake pres with them. It just doesn't happen here.
I have no idea how often it comes up. I do know that my mission president, who was a religion professor at Ricks, said he got those questions all the time in private in his office, and sometimes in class. When I was elders quorum president, I was asked that question probably 10 times, and I know my bishop was asked about such things, too. So, it's not unheard of. Usually, however, it's another, more obvious issue; people I know have tended to cling to belief in Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon until the last.
Zelder wrote: The influence and voice of Mormonism is being heard and felt. Likewise, even though the state of Israel is small in both size and numbers they are not inconsequential.
Nah, the LDS Church is fairly inconsequential. I'm glad you root for your team, Zelder, but reality is reality.
Most people in the world have never heard of Mormons. The rest (except for members) don't care much.
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Buffalo wrote:Mormons ARE inconsequential. What contributions have we made to art, literature, science, politics, etc? Very few and far between. Jewish people, though also small in number, are hugely influential. There's no comparison.
I disagree. Mormons are everywhere and in everything. You could argue the Jews are more influential than Mormons and I would agree. Maybe that would also be expected since Judah was always more dominate than Ephraim. However, from Philo Farnsworth to Mitt Romney, Mormons not inconsequential.
Buffalo wrote:Mormons ARE inconsequential. What contributions have we made to art, literature, science, politics, etc? Very few and far between. Jewish people, though also small in number, are hugely influential. There's no comparison.
I disagree. Mormons are everywhere and in everything. You could argue the Jews are more influential than Mormons and I would agree. Maybe that would also be expected since Judah was always more dominate than Ephraim. However, from Philo Farnsworth to Mitt Romney, Mormons not inconsequential.
Mormon Membership - 14,000,000 less an apostasy worth. World Population - 7,000,000,000
Mormons are less than 0.2% of the population. I don't think it's possible for Mormons to be everywhere and in everything. Perhaps Mormons stand out as more significant to you as you are Mormon.
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Zelder wrote: The influence and voice of Mormonism is being heard and felt. Likewise, even though the state of Israel is small in both size and numbers they are not inconsequential.
Nah, the LDS Church is fairly inconsequential. I'm glad you root for your team, Zelder, but reality is reality.
Most people in the world have never heard of Mormons. The rest (except for members) don't care much.
It's a very small player that is for sure. I will agree with that. It's also still just a church rather than a kingdom. Prop 8 was not viewed as insignificant though.
Zelder wrote:It's a very small player that is for sure. I will agree with that. It's also still just a church rather than a kingdom. Prop 8 was not viewed as insignificant though.
Prop 8 is what I thought of, too, as something consequential the church has done as an institution. I suspect you and I differ as to whether we think that was a good thing for the church to do.
Buffalo wrote:Mormons ARE inconsequential. What contributions have we made to art, literature, science, politics, etc? Very few and far between. Jewish people, though also small in number, are hugely influential. There's no comparison.
I disagree. Mormons are everywhere and in everything. You could argue the Jews are more influential than Mormons and I would agree. Maybe that would also be expected since Judah was always more dominate than Ephraim. However, from Philo Farnsworth to Mitt Romney, Mormons not inconsequential.
Well, that's two. Mitt might well amount to nothing in the end. In the grand scheme of things, Mormons do not have much influence.
The Book of Mormon is doing very well on Broadway, but I don't think that you would like to claim that as a victory. LDS influence is flagging these days. The membership is dropping and very few people are converting.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
Buffalo wrote:Mormons ARE inconsequential. What contributions have we made to art, literature, science, politics, etc? Very few and far between. Jewish people, though also small in number, are hugely influential. There's no comparison.
I disagree. Mormons are everywhere and in everything. You could argue the Jews are more influential than Mormons and I would agree. Maybe that would also be expected since Judah was always more dominate than Ephraim. However, from Philo Farnsworth to Mitt Romney, Mormons not inconsequential.
Only in Utah. If not for the election campaign, most people would still know diddly squat about Mormons.
Philo Farnsworth name comes up every time you talk about influential Mormons. That should tell you something.
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Drifting wrote:Mormon Membership - 14,000,000 less an apostasy worth. World Population - 7,000,000,000
Mormons are less than 0.2% of the population.
Again, this is to be expected. Nephi warned us it would be this way. Furthermore, as I stated previously, in the D&C we are told that the Gentiles will reject the gospel (which they have). I don't think the church is going come into its own until after it hits the fan.