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[_SteelHead]

Are you not then implying that Noah didn't take all of the species with him in the ark?

Can you also provide any support for antediluvian genetic engineering to which you refer?

Shoot, while you are at it, please provide any support for the fossil record evidencing a worldwide flood event within the last 8k years.

[_LittleNipper]

Are you not then implying that Noah didn't take all of the species with him in the ark?

Can you also provide any support for antediluvian genetic engineering to which you refer?

Shoot, while you are at it, please provide any support for the fossil record evidencing a worldwide flood event within the last 8k years.

We have not reached the Flood portion of the Bible yet.

[_LittleNipper]

Genesis 2:16-25 God told man that he may eat of every tree but the Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil. If he does eat of it he will die in that day (however, God was not specific to the form of death). Adam named all the animals God had made from the ground but found none like him. God made woman from Adam's rib to compliment Adam's well being, and did this as Adam slept (induced by God). Marriage is established -- Adam saw Eve as part of himself and as being married together. And neither Adam nor Eve had clothes but they didn't need them for any reason.

16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

[_Samantabhadra]

...one species to split into two or more different species...

That's not how speciation works. Read a book. The Structure of Evolutionary Biology is probably a good place to start.

On second thought, do we really need to argue Creationism here? Hasn't this already been done?

[_LittleNipper]

...one species to split into two or more different species...

That's not how speciation works. Read a book. The Structure of Evolutionary Biology is probably a good place to start.

On second thought, do we really need to argue Creationism here? Hasn't this already been done?

Look, I really do not believe that stuff. God says He created man independently from all the other kinds. Every evolutionists I have ever talked to feels that man and apes DECENDED from the same ancestory (speciation or not). That they feel this way doesn't make it so. And since I believe God exists and Created everything, I do not need alternative "theories."

[_ludwigm]

... since I believe God exists and Created everything, I do not need alternative "theories."

OK. I've heard this many times.

Don't disturb me with facts, I have faith.

Genesis 2:4-15
This is a more detailed revelation of the creation process of the space and matter in the day of Jehovah more specific & detailed. At first there were no plants, no rain, and no man to cultvate the ground. Then a mist went up from the ground and brought water to the ground.

a mist went up from the ground
Does this mean
"the wetness/humidity of the ground produced the mist" ?
"the ground, which used to contain water, discharged it to the air" ?

and brought water to the ground
Does this mean
"then that water returned to its original source" ?


Very productive creation cycle, I can say.

[_LittleNipper]

... since I believe God exists and Created everything, I do not need alternative "theories."

OK. I've heard this many times.

Don't disturb me with facts, I have faith.

Genesis 2:4-15
This is a more detailed revelation of the creation process of the space and matter in the day of Jehovah more specific & detailed. At first there were no plants, no rain, and no man to cultvate the ground. Then a mist went up from the ground and brought water to the ground.

a mist went up from the ground
Does this mean
"the wetness/humidity of the ground produced the mist" ?
"the ground, which used to contain water, discharged it to the air" ?

and brought water to the ground
Does this mean
"then that water returned to its original source" ?


Very productive creation cycle, I can say.

The evolutionists have some bits and pieces of real evidence from which they developed a lie. The evidence is real but the interpretation is in error. Also, there is apparently more evidence that exists that has been supressed. The reason it's excluded or supressed is that it doesn't fit the uniformatarian/evolution structure. There exists things in storage which are there because they present a confused embarrassment to evolutionary theory. They will remain in storage until such time it can be determinded where they fit in the evolutionary scheme of things ---- or are proven to have been planted or forgeries.

[_ludwigm]

... since I believe God exists and Created everything, I do not need alternative "theories."

OK. I've heard this many times.

Don't disturb me with facts, I have faith.

Genesis 2:4-15
This is a more detailed revelation of the creation process of the space and matter in the day of Jehovah more specific & detailed. At first there were no plants, no rain, and no man to cultvate the ground. Then a mist went up from the ground and brought water to the ground.

a mist went up from the ground
Does this mean
"the wetness/humidity of the ground produced the mist" ?
"the ground, which used to contain water, discharged it to the air" ?

and brought water to the ground
Does this mean
"then that water returned to its original source" ?


Very productive creation cycle, I can say.

The evolutionists have some bits and pieces of real evidence from which they developed a lie. The evidence is real but the interpretation is in error. Also, there is apparently more evidence that exists that has been supressed. The reason it's excluded or supressed is that it doesn't fit the uniformatarian/evolution structure. There exists things in storage which are there because they present a confused embarrassment to evolutionary theory. They will remain in storage until such time it can be determinded where they fit in the evolutionary scheme of things ---- or are proven to have been planted or forgeries.

What about a mist went up from the ground ???

As far as I remember, I didn't say anything about evolution. Or evilution. Look at my quoted comment.

Please preach me something about the mist, going up from the ground, then bring back the water to there.

Then a mist went up from the ground and brought water to the ground.
This is a sentence written by You. I assume You think this is a sensible one, please explain it me.
I have no centuries to decipher Your gibberish message...

[_LittleNipper]

[quote="LittleNipperThen a mist went up from the ground and brought water to the ground.
This is a sentence written by You. I assume You think this is a sensible one, please explain it me.
I have no centuries to decipher Your gibberish message...

The water was in the ground/earth and seeped out to water the top of the ground causing a mist. Apparently there may have been subterranean water reservoirs.

[Guest]

Genesis 3 We have the Fall. The serpent is the most delicately constructed and sly. This serpent asks Eve, if it is true that they may eat of all the fruit trees? Eve says that they do eat of all the fruit trees, except for the Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil in the Midst of the garden which God said not to eat or touch (Oddly, God told Adam not the eat but nothing is said earlier of not touching), or death will happen. Now the serpent says that in dying they do not die. But their eyes will be opened any they will become gods understanding both good and bad. Eve sees that the tree looks great and is good for food and is to be desired because it will make one wise. So Eve took and ate and gave some to Adam who was standing around listening to this whole intercourse between the serpent and Eve. And Adam also ate. Immediately, both their eyes were open and they knew that they were without coverings. So they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves out of fig leaves... Might the tree in the mist of the garden have been the FIG tree? Possibly, and since they knew it made them wise, perhaps it also had the power to cover their sin --- or so they might have thought...

1 And the serpent hath been subtile above every beast of the field which Jehovah God hath made, and he saith unto the woman, `Is it true that God hath said, Ye do not eat of every tree of the garden?'

2 And the woman saith unto the serpent, `Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we do eat,

3 and of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden God hath said, Ye do not eat of it, nor touch it, lest ye die.'

4 And the serpent saith unto the woman, `Dying, ye do not die,

5 for God doth know that in the day of your eating of it -- your eyes have been opened, and ye have been as God, knowing good and evil.'

6 And the woman seeth that the tree [is] good for food, and that it [is] pleasant to the eyes, and the tree is desirable to make [one] wise, and she taketh of its fruit and eateth, and giveth also to her husband with her, and he doth eat;

7 and the eyes of them both are opened, and they know that they [are] naked, and they sew fig-leaves, and make to themselves girdles.