No proof for Melchizedek Priesthood for LDS
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Or both claims are hookum, as neither group claiming miracles from their deity show any significant statistical difference in metrics than non believers in; Ev Jesus or Mormon Jesus.
I propose a fist fight between the two for all the marbles.
I propose a fist fight between the two for all the marbles.
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I can't believe you people are arguing over who gets to play God.
and trying to prove it with what is nothing more than words on paper written by dead people.
When are you going to wake up and smell the Coffee?
or Hot Chocolate for you Mormons!
There is no difference to believing in God and believing in Father Christmas.
What would you say to someone in this day and age who was trying to get you to believe in Father Christmas or the tooth fairy.
Even you would say... You need your head checked.
and trying to prove it with what is nothing more than words on paper written by dead people.
When are you going to wake up and smell the Coffee?
or Hot Chocolate for you Mormons!
There is no difference to believing in God and believing in Father Christmas.
What would you say to someone in this day and age who was trying to get you to believe in Father Christmas or the tooth fairy.
Even you would say... You need your head checked.
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Albion wrote:I am glad to have your admission that much of Mormonism, and in this case claims to the MP, has no basis in the Bible, the foundation of Christian theology and belief against which Christian truth is measured. Indeed, there is nothing else to say on this topic.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Mormonism is the ONLY religion that fully and actually follows the Bible, what it in full and accurately says.
I know this for sure because I was a part of several religions before coming to Mormonism, and saw for myself that they did and didn't practice and believe compared to what the Bible actually said, as well as what they misinterpreted and perverted.
Only when I came upon Mormonism did a religion in full fit the Bible.
I further know for sure because I left the Church and religion and became anti-religion/Mormon was Atheist/Agnostic, and then when I came back to religion wanting to know what was really true if there was anything that could be, I again easily eliminated all other religions as even "potentially" being true. The only other one that even comes close is the Catholic Church, and even they fail on several fronts. But, it's not surprising they are the closest since they WERE the original Church Christ Himself and His Apostles established.
So, anyone that says anything else is simply and ignorant fool, calling THEMSELVES as "Prophets".... when they have no right to do so.
One other thing..... All one has to do is look at Mittens and clearly see that here's a person who clearly doesn't even follow the Bible in full.
1. She denies the Melchizedek Priesthood, when it's clear in the Bible it was practiced by several, and is an ORDER, not simply something belonging to one individual.
2. She denies the Priesthood and Authority Christ himself established, ignoring key scriptures which make it clear that it was an actual priesthood, and not simply a "believers" Priesthood. She as others like her do, pulls the "Royal, Priesthood of all Believers" idea out of context, and creates a whole doctrine around it, when no other scripture talks about it, yet the Bible is FULL of scriptures on the actual Priesthood, be it of Aaron or Melchizedek, or some form of "organized" priesthood separate from simple belief status.
3. I can go on and on of the doctrines and practices your man-made religions ignore or pervert for your own man-made interpretations. Mormonism is the ONLY religion that fully follows the Word of God as contained in the Bible. Thus, the idea that we/our doctrine is contrary to it, is poppycock.... The rantings of the ignorant and brainwashed.
I'm only in this religion because it is LITERALLY true, and fully follows the Biblical pattern.
A religion must meet those minimum standards for me, or I'm not interested in supporting it. Don't know why you don't have the same standards.....?
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LDSFAQS: How do you know 'Mittens' is a she? Revelation? Power of the Priesthood?
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Don't really care.... but it seemed like a female name, and the writing seems female.
But, it could be either way. Have to put something until I know different.
In the scheme of things, not really a priority until I know otherwise.
Why is it such a priority for you???
Need to find some petty thing for yourself to bash the Mormon with like you all do with everything else???
But, it could be either way. Have to put something until I know different.
In the scheme of things, not really a priority until I know otherwise.
Why is it such a priority for you???
Need to find some petty thing for yourself to bash the Mormon with like you all do with everything else???
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ldsfaqs wrote:Albion wrote:I am glad to have your admission that much of Mormonism, and in this case claims to the MP, has no basis in the Bible, the foundation of Christian theology and belief against which Christian truth is measured. Indeed, there is nothing else to say on this topic.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Mormonism is the ONLY religion that fully and actually follows the Bible, what it in full and accurately says.
I know this for sure because I was a part of several religions before coming to Mormonism, and saw for myself that they did and didn't practice and believe compared to what the Bible actually said, as well as what they misinterpreted and perverted.
Only when I came upon Mormonism did a religion in full fit the Bible.
I further know for sure because I left the Church and religion and became anti-religion/Mormon was Atheist/Agnostic, and then when I came back to religion wanting to know what was really true if there was anything that could be, I again easily eliminated all other religions as even "potentially" being true. The only other one that even comes close is the Catholic Church, and even they fail on several fronts. But, it's not surprising they are the closest since they WERE the original Church Christ Himself and His Apostles established.
So, anyone that says anything else is simply and ignorant fool, calling THEMSELVES as "Prophets".... when they have no right to do so.
One other thing..... All one has to do is look at Mittens and clearly see that here's a person who clearly doesn't even follow the Bible in full.
1. She denies the Melchizedek Priesthood, when it's clear in the Bible it was practiced by several, and is an ORDER, not simply something belonging to one individual.
2. She denies the Priesthood and Authority Christ himself established, ignoring key scriptures which make it clear that it was an actual priesthood, and not simply a "believers" Priesthood. She as others like her do, pulls the "Royal, Priesthood of all Believers" idea out of context, and creates a whole doctrine around it, when no other scripture talks about it, yet the Bible is FULL of scriptures on the actual Priesthood, be it of Aaron or Melchizedek, or some form of "organized" priesthood separate from simple belief status.
3. I can go on and on of the doctrines and practices your man-made religions ignore or pervert for your own man-made interpretations. Mormonism is the ONLY religion that fully follows the Word of God as contained in the Bible. Thus, the idea that we/our doctrine is contrary to it, is poppycock.... The rantings of the ignorant and brainwashed.
I'm only in this religion because it is LITERALLY true, and fully follows the Biblical pattern.
A religion must meet those minimum standards for me, or I'm not interested in supporting it. Don't know why you don't have the same standards.....?
Multiple and repeated use of a logical falacy know as appeal to authority using the word "I".
Strangely and markedly uncompelling.
I give equal credence to every other nut on the interweb with a keyboard.......... 0.
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Why don't you actually respond to the facts, views, and information instead of being the predictable anti-mormon and liberal by attacking the person???
Oh I know, you can't, because you haven't done squat in comparison to actually know what is true and right, if there is a true religion etc. You've just sat in your chair, skimmed some history, and now are a know it all....
Oh I know, you can't, because you haven't done squat in comparison to actually know what is true and right, if there is a true religion etc. You've just sat in your chair, skimmed some history, and now are a know it all....
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Did you post a single fact to work with?
No.
No.
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Bubble burst? Don't flatter yourself. Rather than posting your testimony how about posting some of those key facts from the Bible that you say support your claim that people other than Jesus had the MP? Just one mention outside the three references to Melchizedec contained in the Bible will do. Where is there a single word about priesthood relative to those who have been mentioned in this thread...Moses and Elijah?
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Albion wrote:Rather than posting your testimony how about posting some of those key facts from the Bible that you say support your claim that people other than Jesus had the MP?
That would be kind of pointless unless you first posted your testimony about the Bible, right?

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