bomgeography wrote:i have addressed the DNA dating. There is no point in doing circular arguments though.
Sorry but no. You just dismiss it because it does not support what you want to believe. That is how address all your problems with the heartland model. This is why discussion is not possible with you.
It's a fact there's is no evidence for Middle East DNA in Siberia. It's also a fact Native American haplo group x DNA does not exist in central and east Asia. X2a'j is the link between Native American haplo group x
bomgeography wrote:i have addressed the DNA dating. There is no point in doing circular arguments though.
Sorry but no. You just dismiss it because it does not support what you want to believe. That is how address all your problems with the heartland model. This is why discussion is not possible with you.
bomgeo wrote:It's a fact there's is no evidence for Middle East DNA in Siberia. It's also a fact Native American haplo group x DNA does not exist in central and east Asia. X2a'j is the link between Native American haplo group x
McKane is just going around in circles. Every idiotic claim he's made has been discredited already. For example,
tapirrider, to McKane, over and over and over, wrote:Why do you ignore the fact that Kennewick man was already in America long before the Book of Mormon and Bible timelines? Is your reason for ignoring that because you don't want to accept the evidence of how haplogroup x arrived in America? Do you also ignore the fact that he was before Adam? Timelines based on radiocarbon cannot be arbitrarily ignored just because they don't support what you want.
Now for the evidence of how haplogroup x arrived in America. LDS scientist Dr. Ugo Perego addressed this seven years ago in a scientific study, published in a credible journal of science. See page 5 of the pdf file at this link. http://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822(08)01618-7.pdf
According to environmental and paleoecological data, such a path existed and was represented by the ice-free corridor between the Laurentide and Cordilleran ice sheets, which opened approximately 15 kya [5] or possibly was never completely closed [38]. Through such a corridor, where some glacial-refuge areas have been recently identified [39], X2a could have moved from Beringia directly into the North American regions located east of the Rocky Mountains. This latter scenario would imply that the X2a expansion in America occurred in the Great Plains region, where the terminal part of the glacial corridor ended, and is in complete agreement with both the extent of diversity and distribution of X2a observed in modern Native American populations.
Concerning the Book of Mormon migration theory being promoted by Meldrum and by you David:
This hypothesis is undermined, though, by four key findings: X2a is not found in the Middle East, none of the X2 lineages present in the Middle East are immediately ancestral to X2a, the date of coalescence for X2a (14,200–17,000 cal year BP) significantly precedes the hypothesized migration from the Middle East (Perego et al. 2009), and haplogroup X2a was present in North America far earlier than the hypothesized Hebrew migration, having been found in the 8690–8400 cal year BP Kennewick Man remains from Washington state (Rasmussen et al. 2015). Thus, X2a does not provide any evidence for an ancient Hebrew migration from the Middle East to North America.
I'm just using the same argument Book of Mormon critics made. You and others stated there was no Middle East DNA in meso America so the Book of Mormon is false. Well there is Middle East DNA in North America so the Book of Mormon must be true right. Science has shown that haplo group DNA as related to Native American haplo group x is absent in Siberia and central and east Asia making this make believe migration via Siberia make believe. I'm using your same logic for meso America.
bomgeography wrote:I'm just using the same argument Book of Mormon critics made. You and others stated there was no Middle East DNA in meso America so the Book of Mormon is false. Well there is Middle East DNA in North America so the Book of Mormon must be true right. Science has shown that haplo group DNA as related to Native American haplo group x is absent in Siberia and central and east Asia making this make believe migration via Siberia make believe. I'm using your same logic for meso America.
bomgeography wrote:I'm just using the same argument Book of Mormon critics made. You and others stated there was no Middle East DNA in meso America so the Book of Mormon is false. Well there is Middle East DNA in North America so the Book of Mormon must be true right. Science has shown that haplo group DNA as related to Native American haplo group x is absent in Siberia and central and east Asia making this make believe migration via Siberia make believe. I'm using your same logic for meso America.
bomgeography wrote:I'm just using the same argument Book of Mormon critics made. You and others stated there was no Middle East DNA in meso America so the Book of Mormon is false. Well there is Middle East DNA in North America so the Book of Mormon must be true right. Science has shown that haplo group DNA as related to Native American haplo group x is absent in Siberia and central and east Asia making this make believe migration via Siberia make believe. I'm using your same logic for meso America.
You have developed quite a reputation, McKane, for mis-using and mis-reading sources, so you're going to have to do better than just posting a link to a Wikipedia picture file.
bomgeography wrote:I'm just using the same argument Book of Mormon critics made. You and others stated there was no Middle East DNA in meso America so the Book of Mormon is false. Well there is Middle East DNA in North America so the Book of Mormon must be true right. Science has shown that haplo group DNA as related to Native American haplo group x is absent in Siberia and central and east Asia making this make believe migration via Siberia make believe. I'm using your same logic for meso America.
You are being dishonest with your argument. The fact still stands that no Near Eastern DNA dating to Biblical or Book of Mormon times is found in the Americas. Your willingness to disregard mutation rates, radiocarbon and the way you intentionally misrepresent the works of scientists is flat out wrong.
