DiscussMormonism.com

The more I read and study the LDS Faith (after having long since abandoned the Mormon Church), I have had more and more reasons to find that Mormonism is a very dangerous system of ideals, doctrines and uses deceptive tactics to keep such information from the general believers of the LDS Faith.

Recently, I had begun a study on Doctrine and Covenants 132 where it talks about the New and Everlasting Covenant.

The thing that sticks out at me regarding this passage of presupposed revelation is the veracity in which the Revelation is claimed to have been given to Joseph Smith regarding the Plurality of Wives and that Christ's law is that Man and Woman do their part to live their life and to walk in upright perfectness to eventually be exalted as a God and Goddess. That this is not just gospel doctrine, but that it is gospel law.

In essence (and logical conclusiveness), I take away the literally understanding of this passage to mean this: Christ is commanding men to seek after their own glory and righteousness.

Am I correct or incorrect in this logical conclusion?

Man and Woman do their part to live their life and to walk in upright perfectness to eventually be exalted as a God and Goddess.

This is a correct doctrinal understanding.

Christ is commanding men to seek after their own glory and righteousness.

This is much more problematic, depending upon how one is defining one's terms and upon what assumptions one is making.

The more I read and study the LDS Faith (after having long since abandoned the Mormon Church), I have had more and more reasons to find that Mormonism is a very dangerous system of ideals, doctrines and uses deceptive tactics to keep such information from the general believers of the LDS Faith.

Could you please provide a list of the deceptive tactics used to keep dangerous ideals and doctrines from the general believers?

Thanks

Michael Chandler wrote:In essence (and logical conclusiveness), I take away the literally understanding of this passage to mean this: Christ is commanding men to seek after their own glory and righteousness.

Am I correct or incorrect in this logical conclusion?

Yes!!!!

God is a hedonist. When will people realize this? Our glory is his glory. Similar to when I cheer at my sister's basketball games. I certainly don't want to spend eternity with a bunch of supposedly pious people spouting off about their nothingness and the holiness of their failures.

Mr. Chandler has fled the field of battle after only one initial foray into the underbrush. Tsk.

Michael Chandler wrote:The thing that sticks out at me regarding this passage of presupposed revelation is the veracity in which the Revelation is claimed to have been given to Joseph Smith regarding the Plurality of Wives and that Christ's law is that Man and Woman do their part to live their life and to walk in upright perfectness to eventually be exalted as a God and Goddess. That this is not just gospel doctrine, but that it is gospel law.

Am I correct or incorrect in this logical conclusion?

No. Not particularly - indirectly, maybe.

19...—then shall it be written in the Lamb's Book of Life, that he shall commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their exaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the seeds forever and ever.

26 Verily, verily, I say unto you, if a man marry a wife according to my word, and they are sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, according to mine appointment, and he or she shall commit any sin or transgression of the new and everlasting covenant whatever, and all manner of blasphemies, and if they commit no murder wherein they shed innocent blood, yet they shall come forth in the first resurrection, and enter into their exaltation; but they shall be destroyed in the flesh, and shall be delivered unto the buffetings of Satan unto the day of redemption, saith the Lord God.

I see no seeking perfection here. I do see a justification for temporal self gratification. I also see where an endowed person can even commit adultery (the SIN next to MURDER) and procrastinate the day of his repentance till after this life.

It's interesting to point out that Joseph Smith was destroyed in the flesh just 2 years following this "revelation". Emma, on the other hand, demonstrated a disdain for his extramarital affairs. She lived to the age of a woman.

Would this be considered a self fulfilling prophesy?


On a sidenote,

A great supplement to 132 would be the NAUVOO EXPOSITOR. It was quite a REVELATION to many that read it at the time. It said pretty much the same thing as 132. The big difference was that the Expositor was given to the public in 1844, 132 in 1852.

I would consider 132 the "public nuisance" as William and Wilson Law did. But because there was no press to destroy, at least someone used good pirate form and wacked the messenger.

In essence (and logical conclusiveness), I take away the literally understanding of this passage to mean this: Christ is commanding men to seek after their own glory and righteousness.

Note that in order to receive glory added onto ones head, they must honor the priesthood. The priesthood cannot be used to bless oneself unless you use it in service to others. Note that God the Father is only further exalted in the salvation and exaltation of his posterity. This is the same for us. We are exalted in glorified only inasmuch as we seek the salvation and exaltation of our fellow man.

Being a parent in Zion over a righteous posterity is a blessing of Polygamy. Polygamy has more to do with the Law of concecration than any other principle you would care to associate with it.